Dude I’ve been to Shanghai and from my pea brained American view it was the cleanest and most well designed city I’ve perhaps ever seen. You just compared tacky American bullshit made of parking lots and misery to a lovely walkable space with nice architecture. Like you can spit on the worship of consumerism on Huaihai road, yeah that’s a problem, but it’s at least an area built for human fucking beings to be able to exist outside.
honest question - have you been to US cities? I’m sure you’ve got gripes about Euro cities but the sheer unwalkability of 95% of US cities is astonishing.
What are you talking about? Not a beautiful area and some are probably ads but built for walkability not cars only no idea what you are trying to say with this. China does have some areas with unnecessarily enlarged highways you could have posted instead.
Sorry that we’re not all American. That area was built before cars were a thing otherwise you bet there would be a huge road there. That’s why it’s walkable.
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Also cities like that were designed specifically to stop revolutions after 1848. Another reason people like pedestrian zones in places like Europe is because you can make a ton of money off of real estate if you know the area is going to be designated a pedestrian zone before hand, and because it forces consumers to spend longer walking through commercial zones.
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In Europe walkability and anti car design usually only happens in fancy urban areas.
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The minute you live in a more rural area you’re completely fucked if you don’t have a car and public transport usually sucks ass outside of major cities. Or at least that’s the case where I live.
Yes that’s the rural struggle certainly - the difference is that many “urban” zones in the US (and likely other parts of the western empire) are dominated by car infrastructure needlessly/maliciously.
I mean the single cosmetic ad is a problem and I think ads should be illegal, but all of the other signs are attached to their buildings, rather than being an advertisement. So if you’re talking about those, it is not the same.
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Dude I’ve been to Shanghai and from my pea brained American view it was the cleanest and most well designed city I’ve perhaps ever seen. You just compared tacky American bullshit made of parking lots and misery to a lovely walkable space with nice architecture. Like you can spit on the worship of consumerism on Huaihai road, yeah that’s a problem, but it’s at least an area built for human fucking beings to be able to exist outside.
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So true, I remember when the country of Europe mandated every road be covered in advertisements
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honest question - have you been to US cities? I’m sure you’ve got gripes about Euro cities but the sheer unwalkability of 95% of US cities is astonishing.
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You wrote two paragraphs without remembering or double checking what you said? And you insult my reading comprehension? What the fuck lmao
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That looks far better? Like yeah advertising sucks and I wish it were illegal but that isn’t the only issue with the original image
Oh god what a hellscape, a dense walkable area.
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Omg that ad is for a skin lightning cream isnt it?
Still streets ahead of that stroad up top
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Yes, ads do fucking suck - you’re right. But zero walk-ability/bike-ability is fucking awful (and we still have the ads so it isn’t even a trade off).
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What are you talking about? Not a beautiful area and some are probably ads but built for walkability not cars only no idea what you are trying to say with this. China does have some areas with unnecessarily enlarged highways you could have posted instead.
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The reason for walkability being better in Europe is the direct result of the 1973 oil crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXNLaHsKMz8
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Yes that’s the rural struggle certainly - the difference is that many “urban” zones in the US (and likely other parts of the western empire) are dominated by car infrastructure needlessly/maliciously.
Road for cars vs road for people.
Are you and the person the pic is addressing both cars?
I’m sorry, is that supposed to be a comparison of something that’s bad? Can you describe what’s bad about it?
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I mean the single cosmetic ad is a problem and I think ads should be illegal, but all of the other signs are attached to their buildings, rather than being an advertisement. So if you’re talking about those, it is not the same.
With the exception of the one, maybe.
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I would gladly accept 10x the amount of visible advertising if it meant I got even a fraction of the infrastructure of a typical large Chinese city