Correctly identifying the issues with a system does not mean you have to have all solutions a disingenuous lazy asshole wants from you immediately.
Being able to deduce that voting for genociders does nothing good does not mean a person has to actively sit at the helm of a militant revolutionairy organisation.
So keeping the status quo and hoping for an eventual improvement to the system is something you can wait forever for. But when pushed against this, you expect instant solutions.
there’s always been solutions given to this. You decide to just ignore this. And you only notice this kind of stuff because it’s the bi-yearly election cycle despite communists pushing this message all year around.
It’s called reading theory and organizing with fellow communists.
Organizing with fellow communists? Who said I’m a communist? And even if I was, you could fit every Communist in the United States in Boone Pickens stadium. Great, you’ve organized a tiny fraction of a percent. What now?
It’s clear to everyone here you aren’t, otherwise you wouldn’t be here removed about shit you clearly don’t understand. Do you think your shit smells so sweet that everyone else should bend over backwards just to cater for your dumb ass? Are you that fucking full of yourself? The answers are the same as they’ve always been, it boils down to what was already stated. Why don’t you sit your five dollar ass down, shut your frothing mouth and learn some humility before things outside your undestanding. After that you could maybe look into local organizing and what people have done before in similar organizations to bring about societal change. Nobody claims it will be easy, and with an arrogant and demanding attitude such as yours here ain’t nobody wanna work with you.
You didn’t really expect the answer to that question, in a communist space, to be anything other than a reading rec, did you?
That’s not a question answerable in a Lemmy comment. Which I suspect you knew when you disingenuously asked it.
When you finish that link, there’s about 10k more pages to read to get to the point where you can have this conversation without sounding like a yapping dog.
Getting involved with a principled leftist party or a principled union or a principled leftist volunteer org (ie. organising) is far more helpful and does far more than voting for genocidal fascists ever could. That you need an immediate panacea in order to be dissuaded from voting for genocide is not something anyone but you can do anything about. If any of these things are too much (they aren’t) then at the very least just vote third party.
I promise you you do, even if you live out in the boondocks. Do you know why I know you do? Because you have access to the internet. Of course this is something you could have just searched up on your own and I think you are aware of it. Sorry for not taking your bad-faith-bait. Anyway, don’t vote for genociders.
You keep trying to change the subject, you jump from discussion to discussion. Why? And you become increasingly aggressive. Consider stepping away from the keyboard for a while.
What are you, 15?
That seems like it would reflect poorly upon you, since a teenager would then be running circles around you.
There is nothing bad faith or bait about “don’t vote for genociders.” It is a genuine request, please do not continue giving power to genociders. As opposed to your question about having nothing available, which is pretty clearly a disingenuous question. Had it been sincere then you would have taken the time to give context to explain how nothing is available to you and explained what kind of work you think you would like to do and ask for help with first steps in getting into organising. You didn’t do any of these things because your question was not genuine, so you did not consider how a person asking such a thing would actually approach the dilemma.
Correctly identifying the issues with a system does not mean you have to have all solutions a disingenuous lazy asshole wants from you immediately.
Being able to deduce that voting for genociders does nothing good does not mean a person has to actively sit at the helm of a militant revolutionairy organisation.
We need solutions, not platitudes. Do you have any real solutions or are you going to say some vague bullshit like “organize”?
So keeping the status quo and hoping for an eventual improvement to the system is something you can wait forever for. But when pushed against this, you expect instant solutions.
Because y’all never give any real solutions. I’m convinced that you’d rather bitch than do at least the bare minimum, which is voting.
there’s always been solutions given to this. You decide to just ignore this. And you only notice this kind of stuff because it’s the bi-yearly election cycle despite communists pushing this message all year around.
It’s called reading theory and organizing with fellow communists.
Organizing with fellow communists? Who said I’m a communist? And even if I was, you could fit every Communist in the United States in Boone Pickens stadium. Great, you’ve organized a tiny fraction of a percent. What now?
It’s clear to everyone here you aren’t, otherwise you wouldn’t be here removed about shit you clearly don’t understand. Do you think your shit smells so sweet that everyone else should bend over backwards just to cater for your dumb ass? Are you that fucking full of yourself? The answers are the same as they’ve always been, it boils down to what was already stated. Why don’t you sit your five dollar ass down, shut your frothing mouth and learn some humility before things outside your undestanding. After that you could maybe look into local organizing and what people have done before in similar organizations to bring about societal change. Nobody claims it will be easy, and with an arrogant and demanding attitude such as yours here ain’t nobody wanna work with you.
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Here’s a good start:
https://www.marxists.org/ebooks/lenin/state-and-revolution.pdf
You didn’t really expect the answer to that question, in a communist space, to be anything other than a reading rec, did you?
That’s not a question answerable in a Lemmy comment. Which I suspect you knew when you disingenuously asked it.
When you finish that link, there’s about 10k more pages to read to get to the point where you can have this conversation without sounding like a yapping dog.
one of us is having a stroke right now. could you rephrase this so I can understand your question?
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Getting involved with a principled leftist party or a principled union or a principled leftist volunteer org (ie. organising) is far more helpful and does far more than voting for genocidal fascists ever could. That you need an immediate panacea in order to be dissuaded from voting for genocide is not something anyone but you can do anything about. If any of these things are too much (they aren’t) then at the very least just vote third party.
And if you don’t live in an area where such things are available?
You do
I can promise you I don’t. What a stupid fucking statement.
I promise you you do, even if you live out in the boondocks. Do you know why I know you do? Because you have access to the internet. Of course this is something you could have just searched up on your own and I think you are aware of it. Sorry for not taking your bad-faith-bait. Anyway, don’t vote for genociders.
My bad faith bait? Jesus Christ, the irony. “Don’t vote for genociders”. Give me a fucking break. What are you, 15?
You keep trying to change the subject, you jump from discussion to discussion. Why? And you become increasingly aggressive. Consider stepping away from the keyboard for a while.
That seems like it would reflect poorly upon you, since a teenager would then be running circles around you.
There is nothing bad faith or bait about “don’t vote for genociders.” It is a genuine request, please do not continue giving power to genociders. As opposed to your question about having nothing available, which is pretty clearly a disingenuous question. Had it been sincere then you would have taken the time to give context to explain how nothing is available to you and explained what kind of work you think you would like to do and ask for help with first steps in getting into organising. You didn’t do any of these things because your question was not genuine, so you did not consider how a person asking such a thing would actually approach the dilemma.