The restaurant business in the USA is a total scam from start to finish and here is why: There are multiple ways or “systems” to run service in a restaurant.

Most places outside the USA use a team service system. This means that the service team is trained to do all of the front house roles: taking orders, delivering food, making drinks, clearing tables, etc. They all trade off doing what is needed at any given time. This makes two things possible: Having a much smaller staff and paying them all a living wage, regardless of how many customers come in that day. It also means that there will not be anyone constantly interrupting you to try to up sell you more items. If you need something, you are expected to signal a staff member. No tipping is expected or needed.

In the USA by contrast, they run a system where a much larger staff is needed because the servers are acting like commissioned sales people. Each server focuses on a small number of tables with the intent of getting them to spend as much as possible. In exchange for this hovering continuous sales pitching, you get to also pay for the server. You have to because the USA system requires it. An owner cannot afford to over staff on their own so they get the customers to pay for it, on top of the food prices. The myth is that this system encourages better service because of tipping. The reality is that this system encourages constant up sells and manipulation to get you to spend as much as possible because the tip will be a percentage of that bill.

when i was 15 i spent one summer working at a summer camp making and serving icetea

If we were talking Product Manager, I’d gladly help. But this just sounds mean.

even with good moderation the trolls or intellectually dishonest will wear you down

This is already my experience with any kind of nuanced or challenging topic. There are even examples in this very thread.

Yes and I’m learning that many serious discussion communities are invite only to make moderation easier.

I think you just described moderation in general :)

I’m not talking about trolling.

I’m specifically looking for discussions where Intellectually Honesty is practiced because that’s how the people involved would like to engage in discussion.

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If you can commit to having an open and intellectually honest discussion about it, I promise you won’t have any logical reasons to support the catholic church afterward.

Reading this thread, it seems like two different groups of people are having two different conversations.

For me, self-hosting is just that, running my own stuff at home for myself (and my immediate family). My motivation is privacy and freedom. I want to use services that are free of commercial incentives against my interests whenever possible. That usually means self-hosting my services.

I’ve been a system and network engineer for most of my career and I like configuring and managing stuff. I like knowing how everything on my home network runs, where and what data is shared, etc.

As soon as people start talking about “my users need …” I’m out. That sounds too much like what I do at work. I want to relax when I’m at home. Jellyfin is perfect for me to do that with my content without needing any of my data to go to any companies.

For everyone who wants to be an IPTV operator, Plex is the best choice right now. Jellyfin isn’t really focused on that use case.

WhatI’ve noticed is that people who prioritize privacy and just want to watch their downloads on their tv usually use jellyfin and people who prioritize ux slickness and want to run an IPTV service for their friends and family usually use plex.

You can indeed find it at finer truck stops and old conveniences stores in the middle of no where. These days I just order by mail. This might be what you seek https://msmeats.com/pages/the-original-1945-cowboy-jerky-dry-tough-and-proudly-old-school

You’ll be happy to know that good old fashioned delicious tooth buster beef jerky is still widely available.