I have. I taught Chinese students at the same time as those Taiwanese ones, and having them in a room together was often a challenge. The brainwashed ideologies the Chinese students often held in the face of evidence was much like that of fervent MAGA supporters.

The only thing I can say with absolute certainty is that Nationalism is fucked, whether it’s the American or the Chinese brand.

This is so much more reason that these tankies deserve tbh. I appreciate you taking the time to put it into words.

These people should actually try talking to foreigners, students and immigrants. The picture Ukrainian refugees and Taiwanese students paint is a lot less forgiving than the completely unsubstantiated, pseudo-intellectuslist “but that’s CIA propaganda” arguments these authoritarian “leftists” like to throw around. I’m sure such first-hand accounts would be as readily dismissed, mind you, because the goal is clearly not to have an honest discussion to begin with.

What conclusion are you proposing that I came to? My only statement was that denying Western media in favor of Eastern media is not “leftist.” Everything else you and Deadlines have attempted to drag into this discussion is creating either a false dichotomy or a strawman, in some cases both. The options are not “either you listen to PoC or you listen to Western Media,” because not all Western Media nor people of colour agree on every position. Whatever imaginary propaganda you are creating about the State suggesting that China is torturing minorities this minute is not something I have experienced, nor referenced. We have not presented the arguments that you are trying to deconstruct.

You are boxing with shadows, throwing fists with invisible monsters in the dark. I’m not sure if it’s our of poor reading comprehension, poor critical thinking skills, or intentional dishonesty, but there’s clearly a bias here that is useless to engage with.

No one said I do.

So instead, we should trust… The other ogliarchic and blatantly fascist empires?

Call me crazy, but I don’t think unapologetic fascism is “leftist.”

Either that or engaging with such incredible lies is a waste of time. But hey, they said something you don’t like, so “red lib.”