Yeah it would be worth it for socialization, I can see that. Other factors for me though are eliminating the travel and preparation time ( I don’t need to be reasonably showered and dressed to get started, for example). And that I can work from home off and on while train, I could probably do that at the gym too…

I need more social activity so you’ve got me thinking about going to the gym!

It’s more counterintuitive than controversial, but I do all my weight lifting at home and don’t go to the gym, and get just as much results as a gym-going person. With modest investments in dumbbells, kettle bells, exercise bands, household items and creativity can do all you need with less cost and hassle of a gym membership.

I always liked this situation with “uncouth”. Why don’t we use the word “couth” - I tried to bring it into usage but it didn’t stick!

Yah me too, for my small company per seat pricing is really painful. For some services we just have one account and share access; only one person logs in at a time and tells everyone else when they’re done.