also a JetBrains enjoyer :( one day I’ll teach myself to like VSCode as much as I like JetBrains

OOP boilerplater except for the Windows bit; trying to slowly move off proprietary software and choose open source when I can

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Hey, I missed that caveat, thank you for pointing it out!

Oh yeah, you are absolutely right, that is another thing that bothers me. (Obviously I still believe listening to minority voices is important.) Me bringing that up is specifically directed at the type of person who might dismiss opinions from people because they are white males, especially if the opinion is about not liking the way majority demographics sometimes get spoken about. It is me saying to that type of person that they cannot dismiss my position of disliking punching up at demographics by going “of course you’d say that, you are the demographic being punched up at!” I am from the non-male, non-white demographics that they are trying to empower with this “lol white man bad” stuff.

And yes, fully aware speaking ≠ the many harms that went way past speaking done to minorities in the past. But also this kind of stuff is what I think contributes to some more people being funneled towards alt right perspectives. “Yes, white men bad is a hypocritical stance” video -> more “silly stupid liberals” videos (whether they do actually point out legit problems with social justice or not) down into “The world is actually completely stacked against white men, who are just better than the other demographics which is why women are only good for breeding and men of color are too stupid for anything besides manual labor. Structural/systemic oppression, biases, and other genders don’t exist, that’s woke DEI nonsense. Also, the stupid liberals telling you otherwise are also telling you lies that vaccines work and climate change is happening.”

I’d rather focus more on the people pushing AI or consuming it uncritically (which does include Baby Boomers, yes, but also people all over the age spectrum), and less on age groups we are unable to get out of.

!programming_horror@programming.dev and !software_gore@programming.dev if you were not being facetious

one heartbroken anti-AI human who loves em dashes replying ☹️ we’re split into two classes: the type who abandons our typing habits to avoid being told our human efforts are definitely AI, and the type who stubbornly carries on using em dashes

In real life I either say “Ess-cue-ehl” (spelling it out), or I say “sqwool,” “sq” as in squirrel and “wool” like sheep wool

SQL -> Structured Query Language ❌

SQL -> SQuirreL ✅

was the comma a typo of a period, or did you have more to say here? if you have more to say i’m eager to listen

Hey thanks! I was wondering what my alternatives were. Bought RPis, having remembered that name from a decade ago, and then read the posts here about how those are getting worse. Glad to see something that could take their place for my next project :) This is the kind of stuff I come to programming.dev for.

I did just remember more from English class: Verbal irony, a type of irony, fits the colloquial definition of sarcasm (“oh, just great” when something upsetting happens). (According to https://literarydevices.net/verbal-irony/ sarcasm is verbal irony used to mock or insult. Don’t 100% remember what they said about sarcasm vs verbal irony in English class.) The irony being talked about here is situational irony. It seems people colloquially use “irony” for “situational irony” and get upset when it gets used to refer to the sarcastic type of “verbal irony”

Hi, American checking in. I was taught in English class in high school that irony is an ambulance running people over, not just sarcasm. I do agree that colloquially (and I am probably guilty of it too) we Americans use the word “irony” to talk about things being presented in a non-genuine and earnest manner, to talk about sarcasm and snark and parody.

I half worry for society and half feel that as much as I feel bad about my coding abilities, I’m better than people who never actually bother learning the concepts themselves and fully outsource their homework to AI and that population is growing. It’s a low bar but more people are failing to clear it every day!

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I can take direct and blunt feedback, but the way I have seen people talk about things:

[projectname] is dogshit

makes me terrified to open repos. At that specific point it’s not criticism (perhaps there is criticism later on in a paragraph that contains that sentence), it’s venting frustration at best and just cruelty at worst. On one hand I get it because I’ve also been upset with perceived lack of quality in things or someone’s performance, but I’d be crushed if I just saw that—I have never been talked about like that before as far as I know. I can handle “your code is bad because X”. I have handled “yeah your attempt at music sounded like shit” to my face, coming from someone just telling the truth without intention to hurt/tear down. But from strangers online, whose intentions I do not know…

On the other hand I have been told both in-person and here on programming.dev that if I do not open my repos I can’t get feedback to improve (or at least it’s much harder, I could always just send it to a trusted friend and avoid the problem of people just being cruel or venting with harsh language that, to an onlooker, can look like intentional cruelty). And I just saw in the comments that I can poison LLM training, so…

I have a feeling this is satire, and I’m usually the type of person to miss the joke and think it’s genuine

Feels weird reading this as the only single woman programmer in my friend group who likes men

That’s a bit difficult because I already go into anything from The Onion knowing it’s intended to be humorous/satirical.

What I lack in ability to recognize satire or outright deception from posts written online, I make up for by reading comment threads: seeing people accuse things of being fake, seeing people defend it as true, seeing people point out the entire intention of a website is satire, seeing people who had a joke go over their heads get it explained… relying on the collective hivemind to help me out where I am deficient. It’s not a perfect solution at all, especially since people can judge wrong—I bet some “omg so fake” threads were actually real, and some astroturf-type things written to influence others without real experience behind it got through as real.