One word.

Toddlers

Ok maybe the flushing part is a bit overkill and mostly a joke, but a toilet that can deliver notifications like if it’s clogged for example before you use it and make it worse would have fantastic utility IMO

I mean, you could just use smarter stuff that’s open source and has local API, or do what I do and build your own devices where you can ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Hah, don’t try to play the reasonable middle-ground card with me.

American political parties do not define political perspective globally. U can have conservative views and still hate what the us conservative party is doing.

Sure, hide behind semantics. I’m clearly talking about conservatism as an ideology - the same ideology that opposes progress and protects hierarchies of power worldwide. Whether it’s the US Republican party, the UK Tories, or Australia’s Liberal party - it’s all built on the same foundations of preserving privilege for some at the expense of others.

Not at all I hate people who oppose freedom and equality of opportunity.

Bull. The policies your “side” keeps pushing TARGET specific groups of people - immigrants, LGBTQ+ folks, Black and brown communities. Don’t pretend it’s about some noble principle when the outcomes keep hurting the same people over and over.

That’s the same thing as what Hitler promised.

Are you seriously comparing leftist policies to Nazism? This is peak bad-faith argument. Hitler used promises of “equality” as a very thin veneer to scapegoat Jews and other minorities. Hitler’s “equality” was only (and openly) for his defined “master race” - it was exclusionary by design. Leftist policies aim to include everyone in their benefits. In some cases the same tactics the right uses today, Hitler was far closer to today’s right-wingers than left

The left says the exact same thing for the exact same reasons just they point the hate at different groups of people.

No, we don’t. Being intolerant of intolerance isn’t the same as hating someone for their identity. Calling out bigotry isn’t “hate” - it’s accountability. I refuse to accept this false equivalence.

Equality of opportunity or equality of outcome cos those are 2 very different things.

This talking point is so tired. There IS no “equality of opportunity” when systemic barriers exist from birth. Your side loves to pretend we’re all starting on equal footing when that’s demonstrably false.

I’m in Australia where we have free healthcare

Oh, so you enjoy the benefits of “leftist” policies while arguing against them? How convenient. And yes, your healthcare system IS better than our nightmare - because it operates on COLLECTIVE responsibility rather than individual “freedom.”

So why align with any political group if u know they are all the same playing the same games.

They’re not all the same, and that was my entire point about. What they lie ABOUT matters.

When progressive leaders lie, they’re promising universal healthcare, living wages, and equal rights they might not be able to deliver. When conservative leaders lie, they’re just literally scapegoating immigrants, LGBTQ+ people, and minorities for all of society’s problems.

I align with the side that at least has to PRETEND to care about making everyone’s lives better, not the side that openly campaigns on making certain people’s lives worse. The fact that you can’t see this difference proves you’re not the “free thinker” you claim to be.

Both sides have corruption and liars, but only one side has to appeal to basic human decency to get votes. That’s why it matters who supports whom, even knowing politicians will more likely than not disappoint me.

I never said I believe the lies

Yet here you are, repeating every conservative talking point in the book. You claim to be above it all while pushing the exact rhetoric that maintains the status quo.

Save your “both sides” nonsense for someone who’ll fall for it. I’m not interested.

Well it can be done, IRL, and it does seem as though it can be done online as long as it’s across a time span of years and a deep well of mutual respect to lean on.

Hah, no. When I look at the conservative party all I see is hate, hate and more hate.

You hate the people that are different from you or whoever you’re told to hate. You spend so much time dressing up this hate to make it more palatable for yourself and others, but if you peel it all away, that’s what really drives you and your fellow conservatives and it is just shameful.

At least with the tankies, what they do, they do because it’ll bring true equality (or at least that’s what they’re led to believe).

The reign pullers for conservatives tells you to vote for them, support them, spread propaganda for them to hate on a group because some group deserves your hate for one inane reason or another.

The reign pullers for tankies have to get their support by promising good things like equality, the banishment of the rich, full unalienable human rights to include healthcare.

Yea the reign pullers are lying, they always do that on all sides, but what they have to lie to you about to get you to do the things they want you to do MATTERS.

And the lies they feed you, are disgusting.

Yea, IRL it’s possible, but it’s much got damn work. I’m doing this rn for some family members, and it’s been a few years and I think I’m starting to make a breakthrough on one.

I’ve needed to stoop to some “drastic” measures though, like manipulating their favored corporate social media algorithms away from the alt-right bubbles or drastically artificially slowing down certain places like Facebook so that it’s “painful to use”

Well, this has got to be one of the only things I’ve ever upvoted from you, but yea

Internet arguments are more about the audience than the tankie you’re arguing against.

I’ve certainly taken that approach with the tankies these days, I used to debate them, now I don’t really because its pointless. I reply to them every time, but it’s arguments for the audience more than anything.

When I was petitioning for !conservative@lemmy.world to turn it into a satire comm, one kind of comment I saw come up was “if they don’t have a comm where we can argue with them, how can we get them to see the light?” (And before anyone brings it up, yes there are other Lemmy spaces (and a whole instance! (HilariousChaos) that are for “serious” conservative comms like !conservative@sh.itjust.works) and I still think it’s pointless to try because of what I covered with the opening post, but I was really hoping for at least a rare case of it happening.

for synthetic and push it out to 5k+ miles.

Haha yeah

Hides my car always pushing 10k miles

How refreshingly honest, id like a ticket on @Skunk@jlai.lu airlines please

Who said that? I did a search in the thread and no Ody said anything about that that I saw

Basically, slammed the source code door shut after making promissory statements like “Don’t worry, we’ll always be open source” for years. With little/no notice they relicensed everything and pivoted to a closed source paywall model.

No discussion with the community or contributors, no alternatives explored, no polls or surveys. Just woke up one day to a “Sorry, but we’re going closed source because moneyyyy” blog post

Jellyfin was born right after, forked out of vengeance.

In retrospect we should have seen it coming when they would do odd little things, like keeping the build scripts closed source n crap, but eh hindsight and all that lol

They’re not just closed source, they started as the open source project response to Plex. It was promised that they would be open source forever. They lied, slammed the source door shut a few years later and pivoted to a paywall.

There was no discussion with the community or contributors, no alternatives explored, no surveys or polls.

Just a “Sorry we’re going closed source” blog post, Jellyfin was forked from them in vengeance.

It’s very relevant, it directly speaks to how they’ll behave themselves closed where they can make crap decisions even easier.

Plex for all its issues, at least was upfront most who jumped on the Plex train did so with the knowledge that it might enshittify and honestly it’s not as bad as it could be

A bunch of us who started on the Emby train did so under the pretense that at worst we might have to deal with a paid subscription or support contract type of deal.

That was a lie, I was there 10 years ago when it went down, that’s when I pivoted to Plex full time (I had been running both for like a year at that point)

The first stop was when they went closed, they didn’t just go closed peacefully and Jellyfin didn’t fork off in a quiet way either

It was a complete betrayal, Emby made promises that they would remain open source forever. They broke that promise in a slow walked plan. It started with “Oh just some of the build scripts will be closed source, but don’t worry the rest of Emby will stay open!”

Until one day they slammed that door shut with a no notice relicensing and an “Oh sorry we’re going closed source because we just can’t make enough money”

There was no discussion with the community, no alternatives explored and it was mainly the arbitrary decision of a single person. It wasn’t even discussed with contributors.

Jellyfin was forked from Emby in vengeance, not some sort of planned fork like you’re making it seem

Yea because like I said, they’re on an enshittification train on the same track just some stops behind, except they started with far worse decisions

That’s just putting them on another enshitification train that just happens to be a couple stops back, but is still moving along.

How they went about going closed source was unforgivable and also means they will absolutely have no qualms implementing crappy enshitification type decisions in the future

Not JUST closed source, the project owner slammed the source shut with no discussion with the community and little notice nor did they even bother to consider any alternatives whatsoever

They went about it in the shittiest most unforgivable way possible for an open source project.

Emby used to be open sourced but offered the Emby Premiere subscription for some added features, and the open source half allowed people to just bypass the paywall, so they closed sourced it. Jellyfin is a Fork of Emby pre-closed sourcing.

You should not be recommending them at all for any reason for that. I was there and saw the shit that went down over it.

Emby should be considered a no-go for all purposes.