Lmfao, says the guy who immediately devolved the discussion to ‘youre defending a pedophile’, when I suggested that a world wide conspiracy might not exist.

Keep insisting that a cabal is putting you down specifically, I’m sure it’s easier to accept than you just kind of sucking as a person.

Oh wow, an edge lord on the internet called me a pedophile billionaire apologist, how original, what keen intellect, what honest discussion.

Quote the exact words where I called children prostitutes. Don’t worry, reading comprehension is a learned skill, but we can get there.

Please quote where I said it was ok.

Oh, you’re from lemmy.ml, I shouldn’t have bothered engaging in the first place, that makes sense.

Lmao, enjoy trying to navigate life thinking that saying the magic words “WEF, Epstein Island, Microsoft”, counts as overwhelming evidence, or even counts as a coherent logical train of thought.

Lol no it fucking doesn’t. My fucking god, you people are fucking conspiracy theory crazy.

Literally all of his actions can be explained by him simply acting out if self interest at each decision point. None of it implies a larger plot in any way shape or form.

Honestly, you sound like religious who people who desperately need their to be some larger machinations at work and can’t just accept that most things happen due to random chance.

Also, weird you call children “prostitutes”.

No, it’s weird that you think that every girl Epstein had on his island was underage. Or maybe you didn’t read actual reporting, just internet conspiracy theories.

At the same time it’s also true and provable that uncle Bill spends his money lobbying various domestic and international organizations to further his and by proxy the owner class’es interest.

It’s provable that he seems to do it to further his own interests, but it’s also entirely possible (if I personally think unlikely), that he lobbied for that path because he thought it was the more practical path that was more likely to succeed or gain traction for whatever reason.

Or he may have done it because he has a vested interested in maintaining IP law, or maybe he has friends who do who convinced him it was important, and he did it because he wanted to please his friends.

Or maybe he did it because he was really conniving and constantly thinking specifically about class principles and how to fuck the lower classes. But I suspect the reality is simpler.

But it doesn’t take a mastermind, nor imply a larger world ending plot.

Lol, the idea that a billionaire liked to go to his friend’s party Island and fuck prostitutes automatically means he’s also part of an intentionally world ending cabal is flat out tin foil hat level conspiracy theory.

Occams razor would suggest that Epstein was popular because people like to fuck, not because he was an evil mastermind.

Oh I’m sorry, did I express an opinion that wasn’t an overly simplistic black or white answer? Thank god the internet edge lord economy is still going strong.

Quite frankly I agree, but was being more pessimistic to show that the original point stands regardless of how you feel about his time at Microsoft.

Fell for what? From all publicly available information, Bill Gates is an objectively better person that is putting his money to far better good than Elon and is an example of how billionaires should behave.

Does that mean that he’s overall a net “good” person in the grand, karmic, life total sense? Hard to say, given the abuse that Microsoft perpetuated to become Microsoft, probably not, but that doesn’t change any of the first part.

This is literally lemmy, a (relatively) niche platform where somebody is asking about a (relatively) niche subject. I dont think anything about this is a average person.

‘Average person’ was in quotes because it’s the language you used to describe someone not comfortable with the command line.

I mean what’s the point of “self” hosting then?

If you have to be a professional server administrator to host one of these services, then why even have a self hosting community as opposed to just a hosting community for server admins to discuss how to set and configure various services? Is this community dedicated to just discussing the uniqueness of managing a home server without a static IP?

Self hosting is just an extension of open source software. It’s only goal is being able to run your own backends of apps to not be exploited by major companies. It’s goal is not to be a niche technical hobby, if that’s your goal in its own right, then get a model train or a Warhammer set.

Mainstream consumers don’t know words “Plex” and “Home Assistant” either.

Yes, they do lol. It’s flat out weird to think that the only people who have ever heard of pirating are software developers and server admins who use the command line.

You’re viewing this through an incredibly skewed lense. The average person will never even consider self hosting nor will care, if anything the average person prefers cloud services.

The only lens I’m viewing this through is one that dares to imagine that the Venn diagram of “computer users savvy enough to care about privacy” isn’t 100% contained within the circle of “computer users savvy with the terminal”.

Quite frankly your stance that the ‘average person’ doesn’t care, when this post is LITERALLY from an ‘average person’ who does, is the one that seems off base on its face.

Notice that it hasn’t amongst mainstream consumers.

You know what self hosted projects have been successes? Plex and Home Assistant. You know what projects don’t require the terminal? Plex and Home Assistant.

Self hosting is doomed until this isn’t the answer.

Cities still need a way of knowing when streetlights burn out or are in need of service.

You can wait for people to report them out, hope the report is accurate, and then send workers out to try and find them and fix them (and it’s not exactly easy to figure out which light is burnt out during the day), or you can proactively send workers out to fix exactly the right light as soon as they break or show any signs that they might.