• lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Canada? I can’t find a reference to where we’ve “invaded, bombed, couped, supported dictators, supported terrorists and/or interfered in elections” in Canada since 1900. Nor Greenland, though we did put nuclear weapons there without being clear about it, if that counts.

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    What’s France doing in red? That’s like the ONE invasion for which people had no complaints 😂 More nazi punching and less overthrow of democratic governments, please.

  • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    i object to this because the phrasing “invasion” still makes it out like the DPRK are the bad guys

    it was a civil war, the lead up to the civil war seeing the South have a police dictatorship supported by the U.S. which did literally every awful thing the u.s. has accused the DPRK of doing, including killing people for the wrong fucking haircut

    notice how literally no american ever talks about the U.S. civil war with “the North invaded the South”

    and they’re the good guys because they “ended slavery”*

    *terms and conditions apply

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      notice how literally no american ever talks about the U.S. civil war with “the North invaded the South”

      “War of Northern Aggression” anyone?

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      Eeeh, plenty of American civil war revisionists go for that argument actually, it was even a major theme of the ken burns documentary

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    hmm … sorry for being so critical. But where does this qualifiy as a meme? It is more like a “straw man” for politics discussion. That’s what you want, right?

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    There is so much context missing here it is crazy. This is such a shameless use of manipulative statistics, it would only convince the dumbest of people of its argument.

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        I can’t tell if your question is a poorly veiled critique of my comment, or if you genuinely don’t see the presentation of data in the post. The image literally has a grouping of data points conveying a narrative; that’s statistics. A collection of quantitative data. Just because its bad statistics doesn’t mean it isn’t.

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      Russia should be red for “supporting dictators”, too.

      Oh I just noticed that we only count invasions for DPRK instead of all the other things.

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        The dictators that the USA supports are people who don’t have popular support or a pre-existing legal framework they derive their power from. They are governors working as proxies for the USA, deriving their authority from the USAs guns. It doesn’t just mean people you don’t like. Russia’s “democracy” is as legitimate as most European liberal democracies. The DPRK has never propped up a dictator, they don’t have the power to.

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    Love that they change the metric between the two. Also, I am not a fan of DPRK. but I’ve never once described them in that way.

    And just in case no one in the back can hear, JUST BC USA IS AWFUL DOESN’T MEAN OTHER REGIMES ARE GOOD.