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Cake day: August 13th, 2023

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  • A lot of people today can barely learn one language. You’re suggesting that an entire religion’s followers learn Ancient Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic, all 3 in dialects that are 2000 years old at the latest. I’m pretty sure God will accept whatever language people happen to read the Bible in.

    That said, you do get so much more depth out of the Bible when you look at the original language. From Eve being made from Adam’s side, not just a rib, to King James hiding that God will protect you from the tyrant. I’d love to dive into the original language more, but I’m far from a linguist.


  • I can’t say for sure what religion you’re talking about, so I don’t know much of the religious context for this definition of heaven and hell. My issue with this definition is emotions are so much more complex than “happy is good, sad is bad”. A lot of people who have dealt with depression (including myself) will tell you that it’s far worse to feel nothing at all. I’d much rather feel the sorrow or hate, and have help from God to work through those feelings.

    I find the Christian (specifically protestant Arminian, and yes that is my religion) answer to this question much better. Basically, hell is the other option to heaven. Heaven is where God is fully present, so there must be somewhere else for those who reject God to go. That place must be fully apart from God, otherwise he would not be honoring their decision, and so he would not be all loving.









  • I think there’s a big element of selective memory here. We love hearing about underdog stories, because they’re such a good show of courage, selflessness, and other great virtues. This means we are more likely to remember the parts of history where the underdog is the good guy.

    On the other hand, I think you do have a point. Those who have the hardest fight to make the change they want, are the most likely to do it for selfless reasons. It makes much more sense to put yourself at risk if you aren’t fighting for yourself. So while wrong but well-meaning underdogs seem possible to me, actually bad people who just want to be on top aren’t likely to take the underdog route.






  • A. I hate to do this, but

    The audience I wish to reach doesn’t need their hand held as a child

    Strawman, saying that this is about “leading people like they’re children” not “clear and effective communication as equals”

    B. What I’m talking about is proactively sharing your views, both to save time on questioning and to fill gaps that others would have never thought to ask about. Please, tell me why this isn’t a needed part of discussion.


  • The point of teaching is sharing knowledge, not just poking holes in whatever argument you can (intentional hyperbole, not strawman)

    The point of learning fallacies isn’t so that you can just name them and feel like you’ve made a point.

    strawman

    Instead of just “strawman, therefore you’re wrong” and leaving it at that, how about you explain what was incorrect in that statement. That way you become more understood, and everyone understands you more.

    This isn’t a courtroom debate. This isn’t a debate you “win” or “lose”. This is a debate where everyone should be trying to understand each other, so that everyone ends up better off by the end. This sort of debate is a cooperative thing, not competitive.