just want to add, it’s not the zoomer’s fault.

fuck the corporations who’ve deliberately turned our living computers into soulless commercial brainwashing surveillance machines

they were intentionally raised in ignorance because its apparently profitable

A lot of Microsoft-oriented developers still don’t understand the free software movement, and have been trying to twist it into something they can comprehend since it started four decades ago.

-GIMP is freeware.

did you source that from the GIMP documentation? because it very much appears you didn’t. (please link to the direct quote if i’m wrong).

in contrast my quote comes directly from page 4 of their own PDF User Manual which very clearly states:

The GIMP is not freeware

personally i’ll go with what GIMP says in their own manual. you’re welcome to believe whatever thing you wish - enjoy.

edit: it just occurred to me you may not be a native english speaker, in which case i apologise. “typically not” means it usually doesn’t happen.

For anyone who’s wondering (from the GIMP manual)

The GIMP is not freeware

GIMP er ikkje såkalla “freeware”

El GIMP no es freeware

GIMP non è freeware

GIMP n’est pas un freeware

when you feel up to reading the word after “typically” feel free to modify the attitude

https://i.imgur.com/SuPafFd.gif

and they’re using our retirement money to do it

i think they mostly mean the ones in the middle

https://smartcdn.gprod.postmedia.digital/nexus/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/0703-dg-benches.jpeg

open source won the battle. now the corporations hope to win the war.

imo part of that involves squeezing & disrupting the volunteers and their communities. often by amplifying and pressuring existing issues.

meanwhile, the corporations can then throw their ample resources at steering things towards their selfish objectives

Glad to see everyone agrees this is

1. funny cos they’re crying over stealing what they stole

2. acknowledges this means the weights are actually open sourced (which is how it fuckin should be)

also discussion i’ve seen elsewhere:

3. when considering the energy footprint of chatgpt, also consider the energy footprint of running the internet for 30 years to accumulate all that data they stole. therefore the most ecological option is to extract the weights and then opensource it.

just want to add

4. if the accusations aren’t true (still a possibility), oai is probably deliberately buying time/stock recovery by keeping this discussion in the news rather than everyone discussing how much they suck

5. if large entities are going to capture and then open source each others proprietary weights, that may actually be one of the best outcomes for global humanity amidst this “AI” craze

wow the level of cope in this thread (thankfully not that many tho) arguing over stats - which are probably made up anyway.

some people can’t handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs

freecad is actually getting fucking good for the price