• MrSmiley@lemmy.zipOP
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    Opening your comment with an ad hominem doesn’t inspire any serious response from me. Open borders is a neoliberal capitalist invention to drive profit margins and endless growth. I assume you are using fascist as an empty signifier rather than any concise definition. You’ll also need to cite your own sources for the claim about politicians, I’m not going to search for it.

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      be a stickler for rhetoric, i’ll say it how i see it when i read something wack.

      idc for the continued argument about whichever topic you threw in there - open borders? so i’m dropping that. nothing personal, don’t take offense.

      an assumption that i don’t mean fascist is ‘godtycklig’ here, the meaning is worth clarifying forever though:

      fascism is the cultural uniformity of people as enforced by fearmongering and discrimination against marginalized groups of freethinkers by the sacking of the state apparatus for wellfare (education, healthcare and care in a broader sense) and direct communication between populace & governance (rn the situation antagonistic bothways with apathy from voters towards parties and detachement from party leaders who flaunt wealth in Gatsby style… in the 1980s the swedish prime minister was interviewed by literal children about the nuclear question and there was no denying even such journalists interviews & airtime.) Fascism occurs when capital institutions are situated above state apparatus (privatization of government, to begin with this occured most prominently from the IT sector in educational systems being digitized then other parts of wellfare and now collective traffic is at the whims of overpaid & underdelivering tech companies pandering AI features that break critical digital infrastructure for the first time in me family’s lifetime… that is a footnote for future reference, but not for any continued discussion in this thread.)

      my sources are three generations around a family dinner table, friends and guests for the past decades.

      now i’m closing the discussion from my end, but i am glad about getting some anecdotes written down & shared online =) ✌️

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        It sounds like you are agreeing to my original point in a round about adversarial way. Any ideology that presupposes humans as rational actors is destined for failure.

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            Humans are driven based on vice and self-interest, or as Baudrillard calls it, the principle of evil. Capitalism has been a global phenomenon because of it, and laws should be in place to prevent the excesses, like billionaires and dark triad personalities from reaching leadership positions. That doesn’t mean people are inherently violent, but it can lead to violence, and does.

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          “Doesn’t inspire any serious response from me” - keeps fucking responding.