I’m not sure if I just thought this up sitting on the tiles in my shower room or if I dreamt it, but still.
Edit: I’m being cynical and I hate our blind faith in and reliance on LLMs.
I’m not sure if I just thought this up sitting on the tiles in my shower room or if I dreamt it, but still.
Edit: I’m being cynical and I hate our blind faith in and reliance on LLMs.
But what if it had calculated that this person who will remain vegetative for the rest of their life, had healthy organs that could be used immediately to save 10 lives?
That’s exactly it. I will never be in a place where I’m comfortable letting an LLM making that decision. No way.
It would take a lot of the emotional pressure off of the doctors and family member who do have to make the call. It’s a lot easier to blame a machine than to blame yourself.
I vote we should start flipping a coin for all decisions ever, to take the emotional pressure off everyone and blame the coin.
Cause I stg I’d kill god himself before we treat healthcare workers like humans, the only reasonable solution is the coin.
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You think that can be accurately encoded in a text predictor?
Like sure eventually computers will be powerful enough to Turing machine an LLM into something useful - a la monkeys on typewriters. But the efficiency of such a system is compatible to natural selection in its probability distribution. When a Dr 40 years ago could have given you the same, and actually describe why without taking another 2^256 years to compute.
I really don’t understand why everyone thinks that chatbots and image generators are the only form of AI out there. AI has been around for decades longer than chatbots. Industrial AI isnt designed to chat. It’s designed to work.
Yeah but in a post about LLMs I think the context clues kinda enforce what AI algorithm is being discussed.
I suppose it is only mentioned in the edit of OP, but still
I thought the spirit of the discussion was ethics of allowing machines to make medical decisions. Which, I think is a valid philosophical discussion that needs to happen soon, because the technology is quickly going to put us there.
Using a digital Magic 8 ball to make those decisions is just nonsense, and there’s nothing to discuss.
You got me there not gonna lie.
I think I have a hard time seeing technological/ethical/philosphical as new cause most of it is just a change in order of magnitude over old mathematical/ethical/philosophical debates, but that is my own bias. Honestly I feel like comparing AI models is closer to that stupid Nazi “skull measuring” bs than a generalisable framework for the universe.
On the medical ethical side, I’d trust a computer to make decisions that require that processing order of magnitude (or sampling frequency/sampling method) - but again I feel like we were already accepting this back in the 40s with early digital sensors, and even more so in the 90s on with microchips.
But I wouldn’t trust them on emotional decisions and interpretation, cause why try to approximate some then when real humans exist.
So TLDR my hot take is Drs have for a while been human machine translator/therapists, which ends up being a pretty damn technical job.
This is such a good summary of my thinking process. Thanks! 😀
What if it had? Do you think that makes it acceptable for the AI to decide to pull the plug (as per the OP’s scenario)?
Are you going to be the one to tell those other ten people’s families that their loved one is going to die because another family wants to watch their brain dead Uncle breathe for a few more weeks?
Actually, the conversation usually goes something like this:
Patient/family: do you have a kidney yet?
Doctor: no, not yet
(no mention of the family dealing with a difficult, personal decision about their loved one)
The larger question being presented is who gets to decide whether to pull the plug? Do you want such a decision about your spouse or child to be in the hands of another?
Forgive my theatrics, just trying to put you in the mindset of 10 people that died because your human brain chose to state at a vegetable. No, probably not even that. They’ll keep him on life support and go back to their own lives. And more and more people will die as he lays there alone and unaware.
Human emotion makes lots of bad decisions.
You’re not owed someone else’s organs, you sad utilitarian fuck.
It’s ok, he consented to organ donation.
So does AI. So do algorithms.
It sounds like you’re OK with the decision being in something else’s hands. which again brings us back to the point of the OP.