• Fallibilist@feddit.uk
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    5 days ago

    Climate change will make the planet uninhabitable for humans.

    No it won’t and not a single credible study claim otherwise.

    One group of people claims the entire thing is a hoax and another thinks it’s going to make humans go extinct. Classic example of both being wrong.

    Why is it that we can’t just accept bad things as bad but we need to add color to everything and pretend it’s even worse than it actually is. Spreading this kind of misinformation causes an immense amount of pointless anxiety in people.

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      From the studies I’ve seen and discussions I’ve followed, there’s three scenarios that will make the planet uninhabitable:

      • the oceans heat up to the point where they stop producing oxygen,
      • we run out of drinkable water, or
      • we kill off pollinators and run out of food.

      Those are all entirely possible and will make the planet uninhabitable for humans.

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      I mean… obviously it won’t make the whole planet inhabitable, but billions will die when 90% of the planet is inhabitable. The last of which might be wiped out when the world fights over access to those remaining 10%.

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        No, those are still completely made up numbers. The estimated number of excess deaths under the worst case scenario range from 7 to 15 million people annually by 2100.

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          You do know that until 2100, there is still very little effect of climate change?

          The actual timescale for most of the effects is in the span of hundreds of years. Because the catastrophic effects are so far in the future is why people do so little about it.

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                No shit, but that doesn’t mean there’s “very little effect.” It doesn’t take a lot of warming to cause billions of people to die.

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                  Yes, but if you read my statement carefully, I ever only speak about “very little” in the context of “compared to what will still happen”.

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                    You do know that until 2100, there is still very little effect of climate change?

                    The actual timescale for most of the effects is in the span of hundreds of years. Because the catastrophic effects are so far in the future is why people do so little about it.

                    There was no attempt to compare this to anything. It’s a stand alone claim, which you then later attempted to contextualize.

                    Let’s not claim this is my fault because I don’t read carefully enough. You made an imprecise statement and I corrected it.

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          Which scenario are you referring to? IPCC? Because one of the possibilities I’ve seen is that clouds will stop forming over land. Not to mention ocean acidification. That will kill far more.

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            It’s true that even the worst case IPCC projections are woefully optimistic. They almost completely fail to account for impacts beyond emissions or feedback loops or loss of keystone species, etc.

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      Catastrophes don’t need to kill everyone to still be considered catastrophic. D’uh. Remarkable insights.

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        The claim was that the planet would be uninhabitable not merely that catastrophes would happen. The person you replied to is entirely correct.

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        Nobody has claimed otherwise. Perhaps tone down the smuggery a bit and read what’s actually being said.

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          OP literally claimed that climate change would make the planet uninhabitable for humans, which is blatantly false. The person you are responding to is entirely correct, and now you sound like the smug one.

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            OP literally claimed that climate change would make the planet uninhabitable for humans, which is blatantly false.

            I’m the one who called them out for it.