• grue@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    You say “yet” as if there’s any indication it will ever start.

    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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      16 hours ago

      Well, let’s play pretend for a second.

      Imagine, if you will, a country that used to have good history basics. A country well armed, and with direct experience facing fascism.

      Imagine that, despite the best attempts at killing that education system, that are still people that remember the price of fascism, if not directly, through the memories out those that did experience it directly.

      Imagine that not all of those people are complacent.

      Imagine that out of those aware, watching, and willing to act, there are some who have had the sense to recognize the possibilities.

      Imagine that those people have been quiet publicly because they know they would have sounded paranoid. Imagine that, quietly and carefully, they’ve been stocking ammo, learning useful skills and hoping that it’s all wasted time and effort.

      Now, imagine that the pollen problem with forming a resistance is that you don’t know who you can trust. Even in times of apparent peace, governmental agencies tend to keep a close eye on people practicing the kind of skills needed to resist, or possibly overthrow a fascist government.

      You have to be very, very careful in working with others. To the point of essentially having no way to communicate outside of carefully vetted groups of like minded individuals.

      Imagine that situation, and those people seeing fascism taking over. They’d be ready, but without a plan, without coordination, concerted effort is difficult. This isn’t a hypothetical that allows for rapid escalations, especially in a world where false flag events happen. This imaginary situation would take a great deal of careful outreach to establish lines of communication between groups. You can imagine that those efforts would take vetting at each step because in the age of fascism, you will be facing an enemy that’s capable of completely faking any evidence they want, throwing a label on you that allows you to be held without access to attorneys or the rule of real law.

      I suppose you can imagine that in that situation, you aren’t going to see many indications of action. You shouldn’t see any indications because if these hypothetical individuals and groups aren’t plain stupid, they know that showing indications is capture at best, death at worse, and the compromise of any hope of resistance at worst.

      In that situation, maybe the only thing anyone can do is get armed, get trained, and be ready.

      Imagine if someone waiting for whatever it is they need to be ready for can’t be armed, or can’t train. Then their goal should be to stock up supplies. Make arrangements to be able to host unexpected guests with a great deal of privacy. Maybe just take some first aid courses and have those supplies on hand.

      Maybe those indications never come, in this hypothetical situation. Maybe those groups aren’t enough, maybe they can’t or don’t make contact. Maybe it never comes to be. I mean, that’s what is most likely, that nobody will be willing to take enough risk to do more than huddle up and hope nothing bad happens.

      What wouldn’t make sense is for them to be out in the open giving indications they exist.

      Maybe they don’t exist. Maybe the probability of all those factors coming together is so low as to be impossible. That’s certainly a possible reason for no indications as well. After all, we’re just a bunch of assholes running our mouths on a public forum, having a little fun with thought experiments.