• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 days ago

    There’s various reasons why people oppose immigration. I want to present two of them:

    • Economic reasons. Having more people in the country does NOT mean that there will be more jobs. Because immigrants are typically poor, they take jobs but don’t spend much money back to stimulate the economy. That takes jobs away from the people who were already in the country, which is very unpopular. This is mostly a concern if there’s a lot of people immigrating, since the number of jobs taken by the immigrants is directly proportional to the number of immigrants. You can actually see this phenomenon in real time in agriculture and healthcare. These are typically low-paid professions who are largely done by immigrants. If there were no immigrants, wages would have to rise because otherwise, nobody would do these jobs. Then the people who were already in the country could take these jobs, because they would pay a living wage.
      Note that this is NOT a racist argument since it has nothing to do with what kind of people immigrates. Even if they were clones of yourself, this argument would still hold true. It is not about race or culture.
    • Then there’s cultural reasons. (which is what’s commonly referred to as “racism”). Some people have a hard time adapting to anything new, and immigrants typically bring new ideas and new ways of doing things, which is a learning experience for everyone involved, and some people just don’t like to learn new things. That leads to racism.
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      5 days ago

      I’m skeptical of anyone who says some demographic takes jobs, because it’s an intentional misplace of the blame.
      Nobody can take a job, but a company can give away a job.

      And strangely you don’t see these same people fighting to lower the birthrates of the majority demographics (since high birth rates will cause the same issues at immigration with a little delay).

      So how do you phrase your complaint while keeping the blame on businesses?

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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        5 days ago

        yeah you’re right. i said there are arguments, not that they’re 100% waterproof or in all cases true.

        the thing you said about lowering birthrates is 100% correct, and businesses share a large part of the responsibility (through neoliberalism).

        still, the messages have to get out to the people and be discussed publicly, otherwise there is no progress in the discussion. one cannot just say that a certain thing has to happen or not happen without actually doing the work of discussing all arguments for and against something.