I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of ‘hitlerites’

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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    14 hours ago

    Tankie was initially someone who didn’t have an issue with running over protestors in a tank in support of their beliefs, and has grown to include anyone willing to use violent means in support of communist ideals.

    Current examples include supporting Russia or blaming Ukraine for the conflict, or supporting China invading Taiwan.

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      7 hours ago

      you don’t seem to have an issue when it comes to running over Palestinians with tanks, most ‘tankies’ seem to actually be opposed to sending in the tanks.

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      I don’t think it has grown to include that (or I don’t think it should have grown, if it actually has and I didn’t notice).

      Any revolution will require violent means. That doesn’t inherently make it bad, just sad. It depends who is the target of the violence.
      There aren’t many Americans who condemn the American revolution for it’s violence against the British, for example.

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          Revolution varies in the quantity of violence required, but requires at minimum threat of violence. You can’t have a revolution by asking politiely and tying your hands behind your back.

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            Of course not, you do it sneakily in the shadows gradually until it’s too late.

            You see the beauty of my proposal is It needn’t wait on general revolution. I bid you to a one-man revolution— The only revolution that is coming.

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              That’s a coup, not a revolution, and as such has no real historical examples of representing the interests of the Working Class. The point of revolution is that it is a mass movement of an organized working class, not some random hero commanding the masses into a better existence.

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                A coup is sudden, I am an agorist. No random heros but bottom-up & decentralised / voluntary.

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                  So you want a bottom-up, loosely organized revolution but don’t think it requires any threat of violence to pull off? Has that ever happened anywhere and lasted more than a year or two? Even Anarchists, who espouse decentralization, recognize the necessity of violence in revolution.

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          I’m skeptical of that claim, but it’s not really important.

          To say that any communist that supports violence as a means is a tankie is to say all communists are tankies.
          But given that violence alone doesn’t make a revolution bad, and that tankie is a perjorative, then that definition isn’t fair or even really meaningful.