For example, I love to sing. However, only one other person in my life has ever heard me sing and I haven’t seen that person in years. I’m not sure I’m good at singing but I think I can hit the notes well enough.

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    I flirted with the manosphere for a while. I don’t regret it, but I’m aware enough of the public perception that I don’t mention it to most people today. Yes, I’m aware of the irony of announcing it here. I would simply say that it suffers from the over-simplification of groups and ideas that affect all groups today, including feminism. Are there bad elements to it? Absolutely, but even feminists admit it has good points and members. People just tend to submit to basic views of things in general.

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      Kudos for sharing. Before it was called the Man-O-Sphere, I used to listen to Dave Rubin and Joe Rogan. That was over a decade ago. Once Trump came onto the scene and they pivoted hard to the right, I couldn’t listen to them anymore.

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        a lot of the gender extremism stuff was free, but it pivots towards even more extremist content when money gets involved, because they need to ramp up the fear and hate content to sell pills and merch.

        i remember the early manosphere was just random blogs mostly… and then it became social media content, and then it became advertisements for books, seminars, supplements… and similar with the incels and the femcels and the ‘femosphere’.

        just all grifters copying one another to convince sad angry people to give them their money. IMO

        exact same pattern for political extremism as well. the more crazy alex jones got, the more dick pills he sold, the more money he made.

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      the irony to me is the people who hate the manosphere so much are the very same ones who drive men towards it, due to their crazy hostile views towards men generally. and how deeply embedded these views are in our popular media… a lot of boys have no choice but to go to the manosphere to find a space where their experiences and problems are at legitimized.

      gender hostility is so over the top these days, it blows my mind. I’m continually baffled at how ‘calm’ gender relations were in the 90s/2000s compared to today, but ID politics types of thinking didn’t really get popular until social media took over. my first encounter with ‘hate feminism’ was like 2011 or so, and the manosphere took off a few years later. then both groups were all over reddit by 2014 or so, duking it out and spilling their ‘truth’ and ‘war recruitment’ tactics all over various subs.