The rest drown. It actually did occur to me in the shower just how heartless (but also accidentally accurate) that old conservative political adage really is.

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    Yes, but on the bright side, you can take the wrapper off a bar of soap, make a bunch of tiny paper boats, and with one foot over the drain, control all their destinies at your whim. Who is their god now, giant who controls both the rain and the tide?

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    Its actually a good phrase and one of the reasons rich people with brains actually want more wealth taxation. the rising tide is a healthy economy and when all boats are not being lifted then its not a rising tide. Its a bubble.

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    old conservative political adage

    Is that a conservative adage? It definitely sounds more like the opposite of “trickle down economics”.

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      In practice it is. People use it as a synonym for trickle down economics. As in, the billionaire’s yacht rising with the tide will somehow trickle down to the rest of us.

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    You’re misinterpreting the metaphor. There isno separate class of boatless people in the metaphor, the boats are the people.

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      You’re misinterpreting the metaphor.

      No, OP is just correctly understanding the part of the metaphor that the people with boats don’t want you to look at.

      There isno separate class of boatless people in the metaphor,

      That the person making the statement care about

      the boats are the people.

      The boats are owned by the very wealthy

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        Oh my god. This thread is infuriating. The people are the fucking boats the wealthy just own the big ones and the tide is not going to drown everyone in the fucking town that might exist somewhere.

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        The metaphor doesn’t use the word people at all. Boats refers to all people. Some are big boats (wealthy), some are dingies (poor). The tide raises all the boats equally.

        If you want to twist the metaphor into some kind of class thing, fine, but you are deliberately misinterpreting it to push your agenda.

        Its a metaphor, it isnt literal

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      For idiots like me a good example of this analogy is LeBron James. When he is on your team you all objectively get better.

      LeBron is the rising tide. His teammates are the boats.

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      It also apparently originates from a christian saying, and spent a long time as a regional adage before JFK (or more accurately a speechwriter) turned it into an explicitly macroeconomic political message.

      To the extent that it is used as a conservative political saying, that’s a fairly recent development, and one that is intentionally calling back to a moderate democrat.

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        I’ve often heard it used as a way to define a class of students in the educational space, whereby any influx of new information is the tide. The only thing we can do as our own shipmaster is to help the others patch their vessels as we all learn and grow together through the unspoken knowledge of the seas.

        As one born where shoreman are the lifeblood of a community, the old adage fortunately isn’t as tainted as you’ve made concern.

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        To the extent that it is used as a conservative political saying

        OK, gonna have to stop you there. When and/or where has this ever been used by a conservative as a political saying? Whenever has any conservative, in the last 30 years (or more), had such dare to venture into such perilous foresight? I eagerly await the citations, but I think you’d be wasting your time to even look for them, because conservatives do not excitedly foresee such things.

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          OP said that. I was simply saying that IF they are saying that, it’s only as a reference to something said earlier.

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            No, OP did not say that.

            Why would you tell such an obvious lie that is so easy to see is a lie?

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              Not sure where your misunderstanding is coming from, but the post, if you read any beyond the title, says:

              that old conservative political adage

              Where is my lie?

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                  I guess I’ll take the L for not being more clear initially.

                  Does this make up for my mistake?