• noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org
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    6 hours ago

    I don’t get you americans

    I’m Russian, living in Russia, who’s never even been abroad.

    But no, you can find thousands of the posts saying “peaceful ways have been all tried and failed”.

    I was agreeing with you the whole time, saying that violence is never the answer and does eventually bring peace and prosperity.

    Im just going by history. hitler, stalin, polpot everyone thought themselves to be the low class and went on to kill millions of the low class.

    If I consider myself to be the upper class, will that make me upper class? Most likely not, so I don’t see how that makes literal top figures of their state at their respective time anywhere near “lower” classes.

    The tyrants you’ve mentioned also all lived in the 20th century and operated within very hierarchy-based political systems, at least in terms of influence. Each had immense power of their country and everyone around, and especially everyone lower in the hierarchy. There is nothing “low” class about any of this.

    “kill ceos” will end up with timmy who used to work the cashier walking along a mass grave and shooting blindfolded sara from call center, thomas who runs a joinery firm and their daughter abby in the back of the head so they fall into a grave they dug. Its how these things work and its what the people who call for violence want in to end up as.

    This is what I’m agreeing with.

    You just seem oddly focused on the class aspect of this, especially the “lower” class, in a way that seems condescending and patronizing. All I’m saying is that it seems very disrespectful and a wrong thing to focus on.

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      6 hours ago

      I am simply focusing on the class aspect since the people I am writing this about are focusing on the class aspect. It is neccesary they understand what this means. Socialist society with free healthcare, more time off work, fairer wages and restrictions on big companies does not mean you need to abolish capitalism or that it will only benefit the poorest. It will benefit literally everyone and that is what the focus should be on rather than bloody uprising.

      I just assume everyone is American here since the posting hours are very early for you and me.

      • noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org
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        6 hours ago

        It’s 11 in the morning for me.

        And the rest of your comment - yep, I now get it. Completely agree. So good job on trying to spread it to more minds.