I was curious how common it is to be, say, a leftist in a very conservative area.

My county, family, and school are all very conservative. It makes it a bit intimidating to engage in any political discussion. I also rarely get to hear leftist opinion anywhere in person, which means i need to devote a lot of time to considering and thinking about arguments that are probably already solved.

Are you, or have you been, in a similar situation?

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    17 days ago

    Nothing has made me more right wing than left wing propaganda and vica versa

    Of course “left/right wing” is a ridiculously over simplified perspective in the first place but if nuance is a political stance, I suppose I’m heavily outnumbered

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        It’s an open secret the fedi is swimming in it, especially the ml instances but there are several categories of varying severity used by people of all political persuasions:

        • Simple political ads
        • “Memes” designed to skew one’s perception of the world
        • Misleading headlines or posting articles from unreliable or uncorroborated sources
        • “Bumper sticker” logic
        • What aboutisms
        • Calls for politically motivated violence

        I won’t give specific examples because (even when I agree with their end goals) people get defensive but if you look, you’ll find them

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          I think most of what you’re encountering and labeling as propaganda is more likely tongue in cheek skewering of the right. If you look at the motivations behind these posts, it’s usually to bring attention and awareness to real issues. The right lies about stolen elections and voter fraud because they seek to disenfranchise voters and gain power. The left appeals to emotion sometimes too much, but their end goals are things like universal healthcare, less government spying, and more education.

          The right similarly stokes fear and panic by demonizing vulnerable minority and immigrant populations, with the end goal of further entrenching their political power, so they can lower taxes on the rich, and raise them for the poor.

          The right and left may both engage in sensationalized headlines and appeals to emotion, but they are not the same, you can tell by their end goals.

          Who was in power when epstien “killed himself”? Why is ghislaine maxwell in a cushy minimum security prison? I’ll give you a hint, the answer ain’t the left.

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      Same. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am…

      Nowadays the real rebels are centrists. Everyone else is just repeating talking points they’ve consumed from algorithms that only give them part of the story. My conversations with leftists and MAGAs are basically the same conversations, they’re the same kind of people.

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        one one side, literal nazis, on the other, people that want Universal healthcare.

        Wow, how do you tell them apart??

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          Same tactics of harassment and intimidation are being used by both the far left and far right. Y’all want to be tough guys and have everyone else fear you. Because you don’t have any actual ideas, the internet has successfully directed your dissatisfaction into hatred of convenient scapegoats.

          The only major difference between the far right and far left is they disagree on scapegoats. And if the JD Vance / Tucker Carlson / Candace Owens faction of the far right get their way, both the far right and far left will agree on the scapegoat.

          Sure, you buy from different merch stores and have different slogans, but you’re all disconnected from reality, “doing your own research” on the internet, denying science and facts when it conflicts with your political narrative, and you all spend more time attacking liberals than discussing any policies you want. It’s the same hateful politics, and it’s very likely a lot of “leftists” will be voting Republican if that party goes down the antisemitism path.

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            fear us? we want to give people healthcare? are you having a stroke or are you just genuinely a fucking moron?

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                protests at synagogues and general harassment of Jews.

                when you spout easily disproven bullshit like this, I know that you’re purely agenda driven. You’re a fool.

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                    protest at synogogue

                    You mean like the one where an isreali company is promoting the sale of stolen Palestinian land? and protestors showed up? 100% called for.

                    Most people understand that it’s the idf and the isreali government that’s to blame for all this, but if you have a population committing a genocide, yes, there’s gonna be some people who take it personally.