• paydequeso@piefed.social
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    14 hours ago

    The Commission introduced Element Pro

    Ufff. Matrix/Element is rough. I tried moving my friends there and everyone bailed on me.

    Self-host Fluxer instead, EU!

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      13 hours ago

      Matrix is fine with an alternative client. I use Commet, and it’d pretty much serve as a total replacement for Discord for me if not for the fact that nearly none of the communities I’m in are bridged there.

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        12 hours ago

        Agreed. Comment is good. I really like Sable too. Element isn’t “bad” but it never felt good either.

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      14 hours ago

      Rough in which way?

      fluxer

      I mean there is ‘rough’ and there is stutters while scrolling the main page like it stutters on the site that you linked.

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          I assume we talk about the desktop client here.

          lightweight

          my brother in Christ, Discord and Teams both need like 2x the RAM so don’t talk to me about that.

          user-friendly

          Idk left side has contacts and groups, right side chat. What exactly is not user-friendly there?

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            my brother in Christ, Discord and Teams both need like 2x the RAM so don’t talk to me about that.

            I don’t compare a hot-dog to a pile of dog poo and say “it’s good food”.

            Idk left side has contacts and groups, right side chat. What exactly is not user-friendly there?

            • slow to load up
            • long sync times
            • high battery drain for mobile users
            • room concept, as opposed to contact chats
            • electron app sucks donkeyballs - wastes lots of screen space where no chat is displayed
            • options way too hard to find at times (like how to add existing rooms to a space)
            • no online/offline status of contacts
            • trust model with device verification is unintuitive for non-techie users (admitted this one has improved with the emojis years ago and with cross-device certification)

            I could probably find a bunch of more reasons if I thought longer about it. These are all issues that don’t keep me from using the app, but they are severe enough that I can’t convince non-techie friends to use element as a messenger. For matrix, there are superior messengers for sure, albeit those are then limited in functionality.

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        13 hours ago

        There are also technical issues. I tried to use Matrix Element with my partner a couple years ago and it stopped working multiple times and we gave up on it. Even when it “worked” half the time notifications didn’t.