I’m really not sure if absolute shit is a notch above or below Teams.
Teams is negative.
Shit is negative.
Absolute shit is positive.
Therefore absolute shit > teams.
Qed.Absolute shit is positive.
THE absolute shit would be positive. Absolute shit is negative. Absolutely.
Hey kids, try this neat trick:
during a Teams meeting, mention a very esoteric product 2-3X .
Within a week, someone will email you an offer to buy that product.
Unfortunately, LinkedIn patched that infinite money glitch in the latest Business Douchecanoe firmware update.
Okay, hear me out: what if you click on a contact in your contact list and start typing a message, but instead of writing in the message field, it instead focused a random contact in your contract list whose name starts with the last letter you typed. Anyone? People love this feature, right?
I’m not too convinced FLOSS devs are mentally flexible enough to implement all of the glory of MS Teams.
My favorite feature is when there is a message in a chat you are already looking at and you have to click out of it and back in before the notification will go away
How about the feature where you get a notification that someone said something in a group chat but if you click on the notification it opens the private chat with that person instead?
Or the one where you enable recording a meeting and only after the meeting does it tell you that it couldn’t actually save anything to OneDrive so there’s no recording? That’s some advanced UX engineering right there.
Or the one where it hides less used “applications” and decides that the only ones it should hide are the chat and the calendar. Not everyone can come up with that.
Or how it shows a banner telling you to update even if your client is company-managed and especially if you’re using their web client.
FLOSS can’t hope to compete at that level.
I love the feature where I paste something into an email, and then it stops me typing by popping up a useless menu.
My second favourite is the one where you’re typing, and suddenly it starts treating all your keypresses as shortcuts and deleting things. I love that.
And don’t even get me started on Outlook search. I can no longer find any emails, even by typing in the things that were on them.
But hey, at least an admin can fuck it all up from one place!
The problem with windows and by extension microslop software is that the UI was made when computers were 1,000,000 times slower than they are today.
What? Teams updates its UI so often it feels like with every update they move buttons around just to fuck with the user. Even outlook has been updated to a somehow even shittier UI. If I had a choice I’d choose the UI from the 1000000 times slower era because at least it was functional.
I was mostly referring to the semantics of the windowing, not application layout.
What about freezing and locking the whole system ~45 minutes in a meeting every time? Or hear me out, lets display the content of the window in the centered rectangle that takes 15-20% of window and it can be resized down but not up?
For me: When using the teams app on my work laptop, something prevents the clock multiplier in my processor from working correctly - it’s locked to 600-800MHz (according to the performance tab in the Taskmanager) and everything is very sluggish. As soon as I exit the meeting, it will jump back up to several GHz as it should…
Oh yeah? But is their customer service also an essential blend of AI and dog shit?
Checkmate, europoors.
*europeons was so close and yet you missed the mark.
I’m not sure how to feel about someone thinking I coined that term…
Wasn’t thinking that, I just think Europeons is the far superior pun. Speaking as a Europeon, of course.
Tell that to American conservatives. Can’t parody stupidity smartly.
“You said you needed it compatible with Teams.”
meh, as I understand the alt is an open source project so it maybe terrible but it’s a terrible that can be pressured to fix
More likely an amalgamation of several open source projects glued together with a bunch of proprietary stuff for Cisco hardware, desk phones, some weird PBX system and so on…
Hard to imagine it being worse than teams.
Nah, it’s probably going to be an abandoned project with 10+ merge requests in line with no one to review them - if it isn’t already.
Brother, the article is talking about Element Pro.
My friends all go on and on about how much element sucks and yet I have zero problems with it, it’s confounding to me
I can’t imagine element sucking more than teams. Teams generates suicidal ideation every hour
Lol element got horrendous ux. It almost made me go to alternatives like revolt/stoat.
Luckily I found sable and it’s pretty great
I use Sable with Matrix and it is SO much better than Element.
It’s alright? What’s wrong with it?
I’m using both web and android version. There are some things that I don’t like, but they are nothing compared to fuxking teams.
If it is abandoned, then they can fork it and fix the issues easy.
Backed by the EU?
Honestly surprised they didn’t go with NextCloud Talk.
I believe the correct term is “shite”, to be spoken with a thick accent lol
The Commission introduced Element Pro
Ufff. Matrix/Element is rough. I tried moving my friends there and everyone bailed on me.
Self-host Fluxer instead, EU!
Matrix is fine with an alternative client. I use Commet, and it’d pretty much serve as a total replacement for Discord for me if not for the fact that nearly none of the communities I’m in are bridged there.
Agreed. Comment is good. I really like Sable too. Element isn’t “bad” but it never felt good either.
Rough in which way?
fluxer
I mean there is ‘rough’ and there is stutters while scrolling the main page like it stutters on the site that you linked.
I like element but it’s not nearly as lightweight and user-friendly as I would like it to be.
Doesn’t sound like a technical issue, but a social one
There are also technical issues. I tried to use Matrix Element with my partner a couple years ago and it stopped working multiple times and we gave up on it. Even when it “worked” half the time notifications didn’t.










