This is the kind of sentiment I had when people ask me about 日本語 regarding: “do Japanese people memorize all 50000+ Kanji?” I’m like “NO” since they don’t know all characters as only a small percentage of that is taught & used, around 2136. Although, some people learn jargon catered to specific fields (science, medicine) leading to them knowing 3000+ Kanji.
The estimated count for the “number of words” in English is 1,000,000 but that’s not an exact answer. The thing is, how many words is a native English speaker expected to know & understand? How much vocab do they teach students at school (from spelling to grammar)? After learning the alphabet, what types of words are taught across schools in the Anglosphere to kids?
For perspective, kids in Japan only learn 80 Kanji in their first year (mainly common & easy ones: 犬、校、九、女、男、名、森、右 to list a few) but the number expands through their years. I mean, something “similar” exists in English with spelling being taught at schools (teachers give a list of words to memorize spelling followed by a spelling test later).
The vocab lists expand from elementary to high school with difficult words (there’s a difference in difficulty with trying to spell a word like “animal” to “conscientious”). It’s like how a Japanese kid knows how to handwrite 海外 but has a hard time on trying to understand 傭兵 (ようへい) since 傭 is a harder Kanji to write in comparison to 海.


Do English speakers have to learn three different writing systems, one of which is entirely disconnected from word pronunciation?
To be fair, English spelling already is pretty damn disconnected from pronunciation.
Also to be fair, two of those writing systems are entirely phonetic, and aren’t that much bigger than our alphabet. It’s really only Kanji that’s the hard one.
Then there are words that you spell the same and you just pronounce them differently and they mean entirely different things.
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Read and read dont rhyme.
Lead and lead dont rhyme.
Lead and Read sometimes rhyme but not always.
No but the language is basically german latin and greek in a trenchcoat
It’s a Germanic language with slightly more loanwords than other Germanic languages. It’s not like Japanese doesn’t have outside influence, kanji are a Chinese import and they have lots of western loanwords.
Not to mention the >60% of Japanese vocabulary that’s either borrowed from Chinese or composed from borrowed Chinese morphemes.
hm… I’d say German, Latin, and Norse, for standard English? idk tho, I only speak American.
Norse is just German with extra steps.
Consider the following: Tree German: Baum, Danish: Træ
Smile German: Lächeln, Danish: Smil
Cup German: Tasse, Danish: Kop
Window German: Fenstee, Danish: Vindue
Also history. Where exactly did the Germanic influence on English come from, historically? I wrote a lot here but it was too much complexity so suffice to say: A little low German migration and a lot of Norse/viking migration, plus Normandy french (who themselves were earlier a viking influenced french)
Other way around I think
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Norse_language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Germanic_language
I know it’s all just different names for the same thing and I’m being a little facetious but all the modern Germanic languages, including Old Norse and it’s descendants are derived from the reconstructed proto-Germanic language.