in the conclusion, they explicitly allow for the possibility that it may be proven that plants are conscious.
Do they? Please provide a quote, I’m not seeing anything like that in the conclusion.
Here’s the other thing: even if you are correct (which is not likely based on evidence), consuming plants instead of meat still reduces suffering. Eating plants directly is more efficient than eating animals that eat plants.
even if you are correct (which is not likely based on evidence), consuming plants instead of meat still reduces suffering. Eating plants directly is more efficient than eating animals that eat plants.
this has nothing to do with what I e been saying at all, and I am correct, as you explained in your other comment
This doesn’t prove your claim, which you have failed to substantiate at all.
As I said, it’s the same cancerous, selfish inability to acknowledge what is most likely true that theists exhibit.
Do you believe a purple unicorn lives on the moon? I don’t. We have never observed a unicorn of any color, on earth or on the moon. Similarly, we have never observed plant consciousness, despite many attempts. Does that prove there is not a purple unicorn on the moon? No. But if you tell me there is without evidence, without knowing yourself, you’re lying to me. Lies cost lives.
In conclusion, we feel we must speak forcefully: plant neurobiologists have become serial speculationists. The ratio of speculation to data in their oeuvre is astronomically high. If they want to form a sensible hypothesis and then test it with real experiments, that is fine, but the prolific speculating and fantasizing need to stop.
read that study. it does not prove plants aren’t conscious. it casts doubt on the existing claims that they are.
in the conclusion, they explicitly allow for the possibility that it may be proven that plants are conscious.
Because a negative can’t be proven.
Because evidence does not support those claims.
Theists use this same fallacious logic to pretend it’s acceptable to worship bronze age death gods.
Let’s all use our brains, please.
so you seem to understand that what I said is true
good catch. also the end of this so-called study has a bunch of bunk too:
Data availability
Not applicable.
Compliance with ethical standards
Conflict of interest
The authors declare that they have no conflict of interest.
Ethics approval
Not applicable.
Consent to participate
All authors consent.
Code availability
Not applicable.
i cant imagine how this thing got printed. it looks like something rfk junior spat out.
All that is missing is working out topless in some blue jeans with raw milk in a hot tub and kid rock smaking himself in the face failing a mic drop.
Do they? Please provide a quote, I’m not seeing anything like that in the conclusion.
Here’s the other thing: even if you are correct (which is not likely based on evidence), consuming plants instead of meat still reduces suffering. Eating plants directly is more efficient than eating animals that eat plants.
this has nothing to do with what I e been saying at all, and I am correct, as you explained in your other comment
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This doesn’t prove your claim, which you have failed to substantiate at all.
As I said, it’s the same cancerous, selfish inability to acknowledge what is most likely true that theists exhibit.
Do you believe a purple unicorn lives on the moon? I don’t. We have never observed a unicorn of any color, on earth or on the moon. Similarly, we have never observed plant consciousness, despite many attempts. Does that prove there is not a purple unicorn on the moon? No. But if you tell me there is without evidence, without knowing yourself, you’re lying to me. Lies cost lives.
i have never said plants think or are conscious. I’m saying you can’t prove they don’t, and you helpfully explained why what I said is true.
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you already showed why this claim can’t be proven
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they’re allowing that it still could be proven, but objecting to the theories they showed in this paper
Plants have no brains with which to think. We don’t accept claims without sufficient evidence. Please stop distorting reality. That is a deadly habit.
it seems like you know that what I’ve been saying is true, but you just don’t like that I’m right.
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bye
calling me names doesn’t change the truth