As I’ve gotten older I’ve realized that a lot of very mainstream advice people get about dealing with careers, society, etc is like “don’t do XYZ* or you’ll be eaten alive out there.” Instead of like “don’t eat people alive out there.”

*XYZ is just normal human behavior.

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    Keep in mind where the advice is often coming from: previous generations. They grew up in a world that doesn’t exist anymore. A world where, often, certain immoral behaviours were socially acceptable, and you simply were expected to watch out for yourself.

    Also understand that a huge portion of people live with a worldview dictated primarily by fear.

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    Because some people are psychopathic so no matter how often you tell them “not eat people alive out there”, they will still do so. Hence other people have to learn how to deal with it.

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    I was buying a coke at a gas station and some sixty-year-old fossil lady looked at me dead in the eyes was said, “drink coke, go broke”.

    I didn’t say anything back to her, but, like, I work an office job. You’re a 60 year old cashier. And just because something rhymes doesn’t mean it’s true.

    But then I realized, maybe it’s the fact that I can think like that that the circumstances of our lives are different.

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    There are fundamental misalignments in our society that cause psychopathic behaviour to be selected for and rewarded. Mainstream advice is not about changing the status quo; it’s about protecting yourself from it.

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    You can only change your behaviours, not the othets. Unless you hold a knife to their necks and threaten to eat them of course.

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    People think of dangers and survival first. If they feel safe, then they consider generosity and kindness towards others.

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      If this were the determining factor, the wealthiest would trend towards kindness and generosity. They trend towards narcissism and psychopathy.

      Once peoples basic needs are met, like 99% of the human population, “survival” is no longer relevent to their level of kindness or generosity.

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      What about parents keeping their children safe? What about husbands keeping their wives safe? What about any leftists/freedom fighters who put themselves at risk for the greater good?

      Nah man, some people are beastly, and some are actual people who understand they’re just a little cog in the universal machine and that they’re as important as the next one, and make “elevated” (read:human) decisions.

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        Someone was on about how dumb Yehoshu’a Ben Yosef (if a singular, literal being) was to buy into the book of Daniel, seeing as the dates given for authorship are off and it’s a conglomeration of earlier and surrounding religious ideas of the then supposed borders of Israel. I said if he was a singular entity, his philosophy was still pretty advanced, considering humans were still barely out of the caves by then, and it’s pretty advanced by today’s standards, too.

        I’d love to see humanity psychologically evolved to that point, but you have nations attempting it, and fake Christian, Jewish, and Muslim nations destroying those states, along with global water, air, soil, and by extension food and medicines, all so they can worship their deity in lip-service and Mammon/Ba’al in deed.

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          That’s a great comeback! Indeed, the ideas stand or not by themselves, the rest doesn’t really matter… and ofc big J’s philosophy stands strong to this day.

          And maybe one day, friend, but I doubt we’ll be around to see it. Mistakes and immorality would still exist, we’re still human, but the intensity and regularity would definitely change drastically. You can’t make people believe though, at most we can point towards the right direction until we become annoying and hope for the best. 🤷‍♂️✌️

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            I mean, I don’t really care if people believe in the deity, that’s none of my business. But believing in the message (at least the “love your neighbor as yourself” half) would certainly benefit the planet, and the creatures that abide here.

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              I would say the message is the core for us to behave right, and it’s strengthened/cemented by believing in God and the Day of Judgement (which is, in weight, at least half of the total message, IMO). But of course, I have to say with all due respect and honesty, that I’m uhh biased so I do care. 😅 And I can’t go back anymore, friend!

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                I don’t have a problem with you and your belief, my friend, and I hope you know that. My point is, when we start caring about each others’ well-being as much as our own, then behavior will naturally more or less align to “right.”

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    It’s either that or victim blaming (“you’re so stupid, how could you get tricked by and get your life ruined by X!” instead of “X is wrong and ruining people’s lives”).

    Anyways, I speak about it almost too often enough here: a society that got rich from colonization and slavery, and now from neocolonization and eternal warfare, can morally tolerate everything up until that so what exactly can you expect from them? They don’t believe in things being morally wrong or right (because they excuse murder, rape and pillage already) and they don’t care about others (sociopathic selfishness is a virtue, basically, it’s how you “get that bag” and rise up the ranks).

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        Oh, again, regarding the hypothetical scenario in that thread, in which I owned a Death Note, I would certainly try to target the ones who pull the levers behind idk imperialism, colonization, and all sorts of innocent deaths and genocide. You really don’t see the difference? Are you really that dim? You wouldn’t fight someone raping your kids or in the middle of murdering your loved ones, and put them down if they would not stop? Is that not the right thing to do? Go ahead, cowardly fence sitter. 🙄

        And btw if you continue to be this obsessed my wife will start asking questions, lol.

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          Dude, if you don’t want to be labelled a hypocrite, it would have been really easy to keep a lot of the judgy shit to yourself. No one else (who matters) agrees with you that alcohol is evil and corrupts people.

          You can pretend it doesn’t matter, but you mentioned people excusing murder which you did and still do. lol at me being a coward because I won’t pretend to be a tough murderer on the internet.

          You’ll be happy to know you’re getting blocked because I know I’m wasting my time, I just deeply cannot stand judgy hypocritical religious people.