Edit: I intentionally put “bad people” in the title in order to provoke. 😊

If you don’t know what I’m talking about:

Death Note

Black Mirror - Hated in the Nation

I’m not sure how to limit the scope of this discussion, since it touches upon so many areas of morale:

  • the value of life
  • the right to kill
  • vengeance/revenge
  • crime
  • good and evil

So I encourage you to be articulate and to follow some structure: “what(thesis) - why(evidence) - what (thesis)”. Other easy to follow variations, such as “why(background + evidence) - what(thesis)” or “what - why - what - by the way(discussion)” or just a simple “what” are of course good too. I’m not trying exclude comments, and I won’t, just encouraging an easy to read discussion. As for me:

I would not kill using a Death Note, unless for some utterly personal vendetta. I would also not kill those that did, if we were talking about some sort of society wide phenomenon. I believe that taking action against human life on the macro scale, such as a nation state against another or such as one confined justice system against one of its subjects (state versus an individual, for instance) or in the fictive case of the above mentioned media, is wrong. This is because I don’t believe it right to through politics or legislation qualify or quantify the value of a human life, such as is done in jurisdictions that allow capital punishment. While I’m against such “marco actions” on human life, I for some reason have less of a problem empathizing with the individual victims involved, which is to say, I don’t think I’d rage against, say, a grieving mother avenging her murdered child by killing the murderer. But then again, not all individuals have the ability or the capacity to exact revenge and maybe they have to rely on their nation state for some kind of restitution? My opinion is probably logical mess, full of contradictions, but there it is. Feel free to poke holes, in a kind manner!

  • Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website
    251·
    1 day ago

    I would absolutely use it. Billionaires, war criminals, fascists, they’d all be targets.

    Once handed the death note, I’d give it a test run on a singular target, with very specific means of death. Just to make sure I’m not wasting my time.

    Once it’s confirmed as functional, I’d set a date roughly six months in advance. Then I’d hop on Tor and do fuck loads of research for about 5 months, setting the date of death for those billionaires, war criminals, fascists, all for the same day. I’d try to make sure it’s a global thing, not just centered within “western” countries.

    The world would go into a bit of a panick, as fuck loads of very powerful people would overnight be gone. The status quo of the world wouldn’t change too much I wouldn’t think, but the rich and powerful would have a wake up call. Some of them would be missed, some of them would have estates going to children. I wouldn’t target minors, but adult children who retain that lovecraftian wealth would themselves become targets for round two.

    Round two would be significantly harder to implement. The rich and powerful that slipped through the cracks in the first round would be taking big steps to hide their presence. The research to find these traitors of humanity would get significantly harder. But just as before I’d set a date about 6 months out, and do 5 months of adding names with the date.

    I’d like to hope that the second round would be the straw that breaks the camel’s back, and gets the currently rising tide of fascism to stop, wealth to become unwanted, etc. It will have hopefully established a pattern which makes those with the opportunity to become billionaires, war criminals, or prominent fascists to not go down that path.

    Twice a year every year the process would continue, and every year it would get harder and harder to discover targets. But I think it would be the safest way for an individual to use the death note to move the world to the right track.

      • Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website
        6·
        1 day ago

        IIRC the means of death has to be something they would conceivable do, and in a very short time span of a few minutes.

        So you can’t have the targets say messages with information they didn’t know, or have them take actions that would be too out of character, or long in duration.

        And the process of having a billionaire give away all their wealth is a long process. At best it would take days, if not weeks for all their stocks, art, assets, money to be donated/sold/etc. It would get even worse with round two, because there would be far less willingness to take ownership of those wealth vehicles, knowing that there may be a risk of your own head being on the chopping block.

        The closest would be having war criminals recant their actions, but that just takes up more space on the page, and more carpel tunnel.

    • printf("%s", name);@piefed.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      33·
      1 day ago

      While I obviously disagree with your views, your writing is THE BOMB. Please make this a short story or novel - preferably in gory naturalistic style - and post it!