The conversations are amazing
Some of this shit is just true and really show how clueless some people are. China is not all bad.
But in some responses… The social credit had pilot cities. And people were banned for e.g. flying due to social misdeeds, while it seems to be unrelated to the social credit.
The reality that especially Americans will be de-brainwashed by, is that china is not a communistic state. That it isn’t all bad. China is much more like america than both pro-china and pro-america people want to accept.
Social misdeeds also remove you from being able to fly in the US, maybe I’m missing something…
In another comment, I have stated that myself.
I am saying that the social credit system was attempted and they had people banned for e.g. flying. Which makes it reasonable to assume that a really bad social credit score would ban you from flying as well. As the social credit system was experimental, and apparently failed, it is impossible to say what it could have been.
When international news talked about the social credit system and it being in pilot cities, they asked themselves what could be and communicate it as such. But people meme’d it and people believed the meme nonsense version.
Lmao
Kek even
As a civ player, I know a cultural victory when I see one.
My people are now
listening to your pop music and wear your blue jeanseating your noodles and use your social media apps.
I always thought social credit thing is just in memes
So total brain rot absolutely everywhere?
Remember that “Grapes of Wrath” completely backfired as a propaganda piece because Russians were amazed that poor Americans could still afford cars
I’m sorry you haven’t paid off 900 in 5 years? That’s kinda on you at that point.
what a privileged comment
They are an American. It’s not like 900 dollars is some insurmountable of money to pay off in 5 years. 180 bucks a year. 15 bucks a month.
That’s literally a Spotify subscription.
You’re assuming they have no other debt, as medical debt doesn’t influence your credit and you can’t be forced to pay it unlike other forms of debt, making it the last form of debt to pay off (and most have some larger crippling debt that comes first). You’re assuming they’re paid more than minimum wage (~15k a year), so 1/15 of their yearly income, and that already cannot afford housing and food. You’re assuming they have a consistent income and aren’t seasonal only.
China propaganda machine goes brrrr
The way people really suddenly think oh yeah China is just a good country like a European democracy where you can live well is flabbergasting. Of course a dictatorship with massive censorship and suppression of minorities has mostly positive comments.
And of course, many people that aren’t part of a harassed minority or politically active against the rulers aren’t saying horrible stuff against them (which wouldn’t be seen anyway).
Ha ha don’t anger the tankies!
Yeah this is so simplistic too, “cute asian girl” explaining the few better things in china lol.
All that exists in Europe, with democracy btw, where are the stories about that :-) oh yeah everyone already knows about the expensive healthcare in the US…
Some Americans believe we’re screwed in Europe. I had a US boss trying to “save me” from the “socialist hellhole” that is Switzerland by trying to convince me to move to the US. Some believe Islam is going to sweep across Europe and turn us all into jihadists.
Wait, China’s not a dystopian nightmare?
I imagine it could be if you were a minority or a political dissident.
The fact that so many people went through sexual and gender self discovery on Tiktock, but such things are discouraged by the government in China says a lot that makes me uncomfortable.
Not being able to openly criticise the government and its policies also doesn’t sit well with me.
It’s not my government though, so that’s where my criticism ends. If that’s what the majority of people want, that’s just democracy by another avenue. So long as people are allowed to leave if they choose, then that’s fine.
The fact that so many people went through sexual and gender self discovery on Tiktock, but such things are discouraged by the government in China says a lot that makes me uncomfortable.
I guess it makes sense not to use one’s psyops arsenal at one’s own people.
If you’re not against the powers that be, it’s great. Like, for instance, I don’t know, Nazi Germany was.
Nazi Germany became pretty bad for the Nazis too in the end. Fascist warmongering usually ends that way.
oh, it is… notice no questions about suicide nets being installed on factories… or the tiananmen square massacre….
or people getting disappeared for speaking against the government….
or the Uyghur genocide that’s ongoing….
but hey, i trust a few screenshots of bots talking on an app thoughSuicide nets installed by a company based in Taiwan that also operates in mainland China at a factory located in a special economic zone, one specially reknowned by people for its liberal policies. A company that China’s own state funded propaganda said was bad, and that the situation was being assessed. If the company was not based in Taiwan it would be a little easier for them to handle because they wouldn’t have to deal with a rabid dog breathing down their neck ready to declare war for even looking at the island. I’m not saying what happened wasn’t terrible, but I am saying you should dig a little deeper than the headlines. I found all of this information on Wikipedia after like 40 minutes of research, but please respond and call me a tanky or CCP bot because it would be pretty funny.
What happens if keywords, like uyghur, are mentioned?
Well tbf, even though it’s strictly banned in China there are still some cases of it happening in rural areas.
But in the US it’s legal. In a bunch of states all you need is parental consent for a teen barely out of puberty to marry an adult, and some will lower the age if the child is already pregnant.
People are people no matter where they live, which also means you can’t trust any government anywhere. Propaganda is powerful.
The idea of a social credit score has always been hilarious to me, like yo bros we have credit scores over here and they legitimately fuck us over since you need good credit to do alot of things like renting a place to live.
Well the social credit system had pilot cities. Apparently it failed. Also China had (apparently millions of) people banned from e.g. flying due to social misdeeds (seemingly unrelated to the social credit system)
The social credit system like depicted in western memes was of course non sense. And e.g. America has put people on no-fly lists too.
But comparing social credit with financial credit, wild. And yes, especially the American financial credit score is a joke and a scam and should be banned. But that comparison is just wild.
wow the level of cope in this thread (thankfully not that many tho) arguing over stats - which are probably made up anyway.
some people can’t handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs
some people can’t handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs
Yes exactly. There are lots of internet weirdos trying to spread culture war nonsense, but if you actually go outside every once in a while, you realize that most people just aren’t like that. I work in a restaurant that has a lot of ukrainian and russian visitors (migrants). At one point, a large group of russians came in for a birthday party, and they asked the owner to put on a playlist of russian music. Like, really cheesy russian pop. After some time, a girl from a smaller table of ukrainians calls me over and complains about the music. I relay it to the owner, and he asks them what they would rather listen to instead. They tell him, and he adds their songs on the queue. The rest of the evening was spent playing and dancing to russian and ukrainian and armenian songs (the owner is armenian, and there were some armenian guests too) and the atmosphere was just generally very chill. Not a single fuck was given about politics that evening.
yep most genuinely don’t care, people just hate to be a part of something lol
picture 2: not real and technically imposible to do that cause we have 1.4 billion people
This makes me imagine how social credit score department people hands look like if social credit score is real
Just that no one claimed that they would have a social credit system surveiling 1.4 billion people.
It was an experimental system in some pilot cities in, of course, a limited scope.
So it was real, in some city in some scope.
Don’t they have computers and mass surveillance?
Big data n shiet
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