So I was hearing these radio people talking about first dates and they seemed to push the idea that it’s almost a given that people would be drinking alcohol on first date. As if it was a courtesy.

I was surprised to find after Googling this that maybe half of people online think the same meanwhile others are fine with just getting coffee or something.

I can maybe see how coordinating to maybe meet at a bar is somehow more feasible after work and perhaps works out better during the week VS having to go somewhere during the day on weekend but I would imagine it depends on the person.

I for one don’t understand how drinking makes sense where I’m at. Even I’m in a good metro area but I’d still have to go downtown to be walking to a bar. It’s the US, so I still feel that no matter what, people still have to drive. Why drink if you’re gonna drive?

What do you guys think? Does the date go smoother with an alcoholic drink? How have your experiences been and do you guys have a particular preference?

(Yes, I’ve never dated and therefore have no insight.)

  • klemptor@startrek.website
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    9 hours ago

    You can consider it a filter. Anyone who can’t understand you not drinking on a first date probably isn’t compatible with you. Not because of their drinking preferences but because of their unwillingness to respect your choices.

  • Cid Vicious@sh.itjust.works
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    Alcohol is a social lubricant, if you’re a drinker then yes it’s pretty natural to assume a few drinks on a first date would loosen both parties up. Not everyone is a drinker and that’s fine but I don’t think it’s weird at all to want drinks on an occasion where people are probably a bit nervous and awkward. Re: driving, take an uber? The bus?

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    9 hours ago

    even as a drinker, i did not drink alcohol on any date.

    if your date simply needs alcohol, that tells you something you should probably know.

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    21 hours ago

    Expected by whom, society? Who cares? You do you, if you don’t want to drink then a polite ‘no thanks I’d rather get coffee’ or whatever is all you need. Anyone who tries to pressure you into drinking after that is an asshole, and why do you care what assholes think?

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    There will be plenty of time as you get to know a person later on that you can meet at a bar for a drink which isn’t and shouldn’t be a big deal.

    You can get to first know the person as is with a coffee. Coffee or tea doesnt change a personality. Alcohol can.

    If they can’t handle just going for a coffee and get all weirdly defensive about you not having a drink that it’s a red flag.

    Alcohol can mask if they are an alcoholic on your first meet. And if they are insistent about getting alcohol as a first meet and make it a big deal like it’s their ‘everything’ that is telling you they are likely an alcoholic. That’s how addicts are about the thing they are addicted to.

    Red flags aren’t something you accommodate. It’s something you take as a warning sign.

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    Be very skeptical of any “rules” of first dates. This one is definitely bunk.

    Lots of people don’t drink.

    Lots of people don’t like bars.

    Lots of people think dinner/drinks where there is nothing to do but chat is an awful first date. (Hello, this one is me 100%).

    Lots of people are conscientious of drinking on a first date with a person they don’t know as a safety measure. (Hello, me again).

    Throw in religious/cultural/medical needs on drinking and this “rule” falls apart even faster.

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    It’s common, but not expected in the sense that most potential partners would be put off by your choice not to drink. If a date pressures you to drink when you don’t want to, that’s a red flag. Maybe propose something other than a bar if you don’t want to drink.

    Why drink if you’re gonna drive?

    A large number of people, perhaps even a majority think that it’s perfectly fine to drive after light drinking. The bar industry in the USA has tried to push a narrative that it’s mainly severely impaired drivers who cause crashes and the current DUI thresholds are too low. I used to think that until I went looking for research to back it up and found that there’s a pretty linear response in terms of driving worse as BAC increases. Driving is dangerous enough without any impairment.

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      For me, 0.08 BAC would mean I feel drunk as shit. Other people may not feel it. The fact that people think it’s too low is baffling.

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        People who binge drink frequently get used to it and don’t feel very drunk at 0.08. It doesn’t mean they’re not significantly impaired. Add that to a bit of propaganda from the bar industry, which has an incentive to normalize impaired driving and it starts to make sense.

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    Give your potential date an option of drinks [if you’re ok with alcohol obviously) or coffee/tea. It let’s them decide what they are comfortable with.

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    People discussing their opinion is just that: people discussion their opinion. There is no rule, end of the story. No matter how well formalized said opinion may be.

  • Leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The only rules that matter are the ones you and your date agree on and largely revolve around where it is you decide to meet. There’s nothing wrong with either of you having a drink if you’re somewhere that serves alcohol. There’s a lot wrong if either of you go on a bender. There’s also nothing wrong with drinking a soft drink too. Or doing an activity based date rather than a food/drink oriented one.

    Just communicate openly with each other before the date with an eye towards your dates feelings/perception of safety.

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    Depends on the setting.

    • A restaurant? Maybe a beer or a glass of wine with the food. Individual preference of beverage decides - Doesn’t have to be alcohol.
    • A bar? Yup.
    • Going for a walk? Now I want to see someone doing shots while strolling in an increasingly wavering line. Handholding encouraged for safety reasons.