I remember just a few months ago bars and clubs being super packed and now there’s hardly anybody at them. What’s going on?
Edit: I’m in the Los Angeles area
Fewer tourists from other nations would be a contributing factor. ICE in general may be more. Perhaps economy isn’t as great as our Fuhrer wants us to think.
Tourism would be a thing, yeah.
Who in their right minds would go visit the US, knowing full well you might end up in a torture prison for a year just because you wanted to have a week of fun in the US?
People are terrified.
Everyone is more subdued, people are going into debt as prices continue to shoot up when they’re already stretched to their limit, and ice is kidnapping people willy nilly
Oh, plus tourism is basically over
All in all, this doesn’t surprise me. Things are getting very bad
All in all, this doesn’t surprise me. Things are getting very bad
And we’re still in the good times. My therapist asks me why my scores for happy/hopefulness are low and the anxiety/depression scores are high every week, and I can’t help but gesture wildly at the state of the world.
Fucking figures that I’d get 2008’d again right as I start getting my life together.
The system requires these shocks so that owner class keep growing their pie at expense of working people. Sure mspt survive but everytime many are cornered into poverty
Shock Doctrine, or “disaster capitalism”. Naomi Klein.
This is capitalism operating as normal, too. It’s always in crisis, and it’s up to regular working people to bail it out.
Man I feel you. I started therapy a little over a year ago and mental health has improved a thousand fold, but I feel like it’s too late and the country is only a few years away from falling completely.
People are terrified.
Funny way to spell “poor.”
Average people aren’t nearly as worried about ICE as they should be, but people are definitely feeling the pinch of a dying middle-class and wealth inequality skyrocketing.
It’s not just money. There’s very real fear as well, it’s both
just look at vegas/reno, dead city, actually dying before trump came in, he just accelerated it, plus state schools in west coast was suffering enrollment problems for the whole pandemic as well(prior to trump), last article i read is the schools are so desperate they have becoming offering easy admissions to the schools to hs students if they complete minimum amount of these courses, i dont know how long this will last, from what ive gathered almost everyone who was in school during the pandemic had really negative experience(dint learn much) after graduating. and people’s futures are uncertain as the schools arnt offering much in career development.
csu system felt like it was on the verge of collapse; i think only a few schools were not suffering severely.
UC doesnt seem to suffer the same effect though, at least not yet.
All colleges went through the millennial wave, so there are fewer American college aged students to teach. It wouldn’t be that big of a problem, but Trump’s immigration policy is killing foreign enrollment, which is going to collapse a major revenue stream for universities.
School admint thought they could keep up the grift despite the demographic change and made zero preparation for it.
Schools don’t make money on domestic students, so a drop in domestic enrollment isn’t a major issue as long as foreign enrollment and research stays constant.
Which school are we talking about specifically hrrr
All of them in the USA.
Private school charging 40k per annum is not turning profit?
Out of state public school tuition also doesnt make money?
Where is the money going?
Not in my experience, living and clubbing, in São Paulo. Can’t really compare with pass years, since I’m being living here just for two years, but all the parties I go are really packed.
Unfair to compare Sao Paulo, brother
Ice
Nobody has money to burn.
I mean, I could go to a bar and get a $10 drink.
Or, I could have a whole-ass $11 bottle of wine, at home, in the quiet, with my dogs and a damn good book.
Or snort.
Or boof
More of a busket scoofer myself
I imagine there’s a lot less tourists since ICE started showing up in big numbers in LA. The presence of a large oppressice force also makes some question whether they want to go out or not, especially those close to the people who have been kidnapped.
not just ice, but border/custom detainment, requiring review of your phone of any anti-trump, anti-zionist material, which already deter tourist, plus canadians dont like trump constant messaging of invading thier country.
That’s true, international tourism is down across the country, not just domestic tourism.
Too fucking expensive.
And at least for me, I have little interest in alcohol-centric outings because transportation becomes an issue.
I’ve noticed that general traffic in the Central Florida area, where traffic is usually among the very worst on the entire East Coast, has been much lighter lately.
We know that cops are profiling people, and pulling over Hispanics for false reasons, so my speculation is that people are staying off the roads except when absolutely necessary.
I also believe that Hispanic parents are telling their kids to stay in the house with their friends, and not go out and drive around. Remember when you were a teen, and would drive all day because at least you were out of the house and away from the parents? If those kids get in some trouble, it could easily find its way back to the parents, and the next thing you know, the entire family is on its way back to Honduras. So parents are warning their kids of the serious consequences of even a minor issue.
I think a lot of people are laying low.
Going to a club sounds beyond exhausting
Just stay in the dark with sun glasses swaying lightly and will be able to go all night long
…Might help to mention what hemisphere you’re in, or continent you’re on? Or country? Or city?
The reason for your local change in nightlife could be anything from a wide, wide range of reasons, almost all of which depend heavily on where you are.
Let’s not be like the uncouth Defaultist Americans that assume everybody in the world lives where they do. Let’s be better, and let’s provide a location when it’s key info.
Obviously from the US because they think every human is from the US.
Americans legit think the internet ends at their borders. Even relatively modern places like Bluesky are so infuriating for not understanding how internet works.
Many, many years ago, Pizza Hut announced ordering pizza online if one of their restaurants is within a certain range. We checked, we were in range, and ordered our pizzas.
Guess what? No pizza. We sent a mail, and we got a totally confused answer. Yes, that offer was for US based orders only (no mentioning of this on the web site, we had checked!). How the heck could we have internet outside the US? Our answer, that the web was actually developed in Europe confused him even more.
We got the offer that they would send us the order free of charge once they expanded the service to our place. So far, no pizza, even though they offer this service for a few years now…
Bloody US Defaultism 😒
Yeah they be from somewhere outside the united states like Hawaii
Or New Mexico.
Or New Vegas.
Ever since some courier showed up a few of the casinos are basically empty. Makes you wish for a Nuclear Winter.
Might be Skegvegas…
If you just looked at the replies you would think OP said they were on an expired visa in Los Angeles.
I get that the ICE situation is scary, but for most of the world, this isn’t a concern, the world economy however is always shifting and America is definitely on a downturn, as wages stagnate and prices skyrocket even before the full weight of the tariff nonsense hits. I don’t know about other countries, but the US is going to be just like every other developing nation with a vast swath of citizens living in shanties while a few dozen people hold ALL the money.
In many places, people are still going out and partying, but also in much of the world, the idea of “clubbing” isn’t nearly as popular and people tend to gather in streets and neighborhoods to celebrate and get drunk.
Sooooo fucking on point. If you arent a sports fan in my area you would be so curious of the same question depending on time of year or success of season. Super anecdotal but just 1 example of tons and tons of variables that effect the bar/restaurant/hospitality industry
Los Angeles area
Lmfao I was hoping so much it would be not only a major US city but one of the largest culturally.
Internet never lets me down
You’re welcome
Nailed it.
The climbing gym is fucking packed though
that would be different from a BAR /club area, where people go to pickup other people.
Umm… Try again… There is entire culture around gym hook ups
I mean here in Canada why would I go to a bar and spend like $12 on a single pint of beer when I can go to the store and pay the same amount and get like 6 pints?
Back in my 20’s when I could go to the bar and pay $1.50 for a pint of PBR, sure it made sense. it was cheaper and i was with friends. I could get drunk on the cheap and have a good time.
now? there’s no point. Cheap Dive bars (the ones I used to frequent) are going the way of the buffalo and in my city there’s literally like only one left out of the dozens I used to go to all the time. I’m not paying over $10 for a single beer. Plus the patrons that still do go to bars are crap. they all would rather be on their phones then have a conversation at the bar.
so to sum up A. it’s more expensive and B. younger generations killed the vibe.
Down here in Pittsburgh I can still pay $2-4 for a beer, and smoke inside.
and smoke inside
Another reason bar and club scenes have died.
Can’t tell if you’re for or against it.
I don’t even smoke but I don’t mind it. Lets me know where the cheap dives are and the vibe is better.
When they made it illegal to smoke it pubs and clubs in the UK, it did a right number on that industry.
The first few months I was whining about government overreach. Since then I have come to realize what a true boon to humanity the ban really was.
Now I can’t even fathom how anyone in their right mind would think smoking inside is a reasonable thing to do.
Edit: also, yeah, people stopped going to bars and drinking after the ban?? LOOL
Trump economy. Enough said
Trump put a 100% tariff on fun.
More a tariff on life itself.
It’s bigger than one administration. Capitalism separates the majority of people from their wealth, which destroys their ability to go out to the club. All of that money you hear about that billionaires and even millionaires make is just the club money that you and I use to have. Now, instead of going to club, we sit in the dark and watch the ultrawealthy fly really high and call it space travel.
Everything that they have was taken from you and I.
thats why vegas/reno is also dead from what ive read on reddit(people are asking why it so dead). besides the tariffs/and detention of tourists which also is one primary reason. vegas is a failing city for quite a number of years already. losing out to ONLINE gaming, and sports isnt going to save the city if nobody is going there.
I’ve been reading this for the past 20 years online, and yet not a single fucking movement has done anything within my life to change this. And im sick of reading this, becuase so far no one wants to do anything about it.
You’re preaching to the choir here.
Ive been patiently waiting for anyone to make a plan. Ive been told to WAKE UP SHEEPLE many times, but never once given any clue on what to do once awake.
Wish I could go back to sleep for a bit tbh
I know. I’m also sad.
The economy was due for a recession. It just happened to be that Trump has done a lot of things to make it worse.
It’s a financial thing. There’s a K shaped economy, with no middle class, and the lower class dealt with inflation for a while with credit card debt… and… those credit cards are filled up.
Middle class is still working class.
Stop doing this… its people vs the ultra wealthy… unless your less than 100 people your all the fucking same… they want people to feel divided, we are not… its rich assholes who are so morrally corupt and evil vs the rest of us…
We really are just one agreement away from rolling these fuckers
In addition to Summer Student Season, I hear there’s a lot of ICE pouring through LA this year.
You gotta watch out for that dangerous black ice, it’s transparent and sneaky
That black ice creeping into our neighborhoods, making the streets unsafe!
