I replied to someone saying that the USSR defeated the Nazis saying that it was a group effort. Got into an argument and called a Nazi repeatedly because “I was mad that the USSR defeated the Nazis and hated them for it” which is ridiculous. This isn’t the first time that’s happened on Lemmy. What’s up with that?
First, some people on lemmy are simply stupid. Doesn’t make sense to engage with everyone.
Second, a lot of people on lemmy like to ignore what you really say and find some hidden messages everywhere. “You didn’t say you hate X so you must love Y, you nazi/homophobe/racist/communist/whatever”. Not much you can do about it. It’s best to just block them.
That’s just the admins of lemmy.ml for ya, here’s a megathread on them
You’ll get banned for showing support for Ukraine or going against Russian narratives or if you remind them of Putlers promise to not invade or just shit talking Putler in general
Or calling out propaganda sites - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522
Or so much more, I actually haven’t updated the megathread in a few months, but there’s more recent stuff on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
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They also seem to mad that you pointed out Russia was on the Axis side originally and is acting like they were always on the Allied side.
No they didn’t. If a non-aggression pact allowing Nazi annexation of territory is equivalent to an alliance, then France and Britain allied with the Nazis multiple times before the Soviets. There is a reason about how the only non-aggression pact that you hear about is Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and not the Munich Agreements or the Franco-German Declaration, etc. The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact came out of the Soviets being turned down multiple times by France and Britain to forming an anti-fascist alliance.
This is the selective remembrance of appeasement. It is ignored that that encompassed many non-aggression pacts with the Nazis and is only remembered to selectively invoke for war hawking. If we say a nation is evil, than not being on board with a war of aggression is actually evil (Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc.) and you are just like Chamberlain, whose only motivation was being a pussy. You can discuss the morality or effectiveness, but Molotov-Ribbentrop was to try to delay the war for preparation and that the Nazis wouldn’t be stupid enough to start a war without their own oil and steel supplies and without preventing a possibility of a two front war with France/Britain, and the Soviets were caught flat-footed because of overestimating the rationality of the Nazis. There was also the worry that France and Britain might eventually join the Nazis since they were pretty vocal about fascism being a possible necessary evil as it is the most extreme form of anti-communism, even though the attempt of appeasement was trying to sit out an eventual war between the Nazis and USSR, since Judeo-Bolshevism was a thing Nazis believed before they even took power.
Yeah, they would apparently rather we all forgot that tidbit.
thats just amerikkka rewriting history with their mass propaganda machine haha
And here’s a Ruzzian rewriting history to whitewash themselves.
Mentioning lemmy.ml in a thread in lemmy.world is like a bat signal to them. All the tankies come out of their hibernation to spread their bullshit. It’s pretty funny and sad.
They’re so sad and bitter. It’d be sad if it wasn’t so pathetic.
Soon more will follow. They mostly move in groups in matters of circlejerking that country and projecting phatasmal Nazis to defeat
Always two there are.
- Yoda
The Soviets raped and killed everything in sight when they entered Romania. They can go to hell with their “help”. They fought the nazis, and they took advantage of the rest of us.
Nevermind how they installed a communist regime that ruined romania for like a decade or whatever. Not that communism is bad but that one sure was.
No, that is Nazi propaganda that the US continued propagating through the cold war since it made the Soviets look bad. While there were definitely rapes that occurred, that happens with every occupying army, there was never any evidence of this being a policy or something tolerated by the officers. Any attempt to quantify this shows that American and British soldiers were more prolific in rapes of French women than Soviets anywhere on the Eastern Front, even though the usual refrain is just that the Soviets were better at covering it up than the US or UK. Also, most of the studies of this shows that having armed women combat fighters on the front and a more gender integrated military really cut down on the usual “boys will be boys” attitude of not addressing these things.
The other attempt to try to demonstrate this is the huge spike of recorded abortions in East Germany after the war, but if you think for a second about how Nazi Germany and West Germany outlawed abortions, but abortions became fully legal under East Germany, there might have been another explanation.
there was never any evidence of this being a policy or something tolerated by the officers
…meanwhile…
Have fun with a wench and take some trifle — Joe “War Crime” Stalin
Begone tankie
I don’t think you speak for all Romanians
Majority of Romanians view Ceaușescu and communist era positively, study shows
Romania’s president has expressed concern after a new survey highlighted a growing sense of nostalgia for the communist era, with former totalitarian leader Nicolae Ceaușescu viewed positively by most Romanians.
The study, released this week, revealed that nearly 56% of Romanians believe the communist regime—widely regarded as one of the harshest of its era—brought more benefits than drawbacks to Romania.
A large majority of respondents—over 66%—told researchers they now regard former dictator Nicolae Ceaușescu, who ruled the country with an iron fist from 1965 to 1989, as a good leader.
The Institute for Public Opinion Polling (INSCOP) study, conducted with the Institute for the Investigation of Communist Crimes and the Memory of the Romanian Exile (IICCMER), suggests that nostalgia for the past is tied to widespread disenchantment around the country’s current prospects.
Just over 27% of respondents said they believed things in Romania are heading in a good direction, with more than 63% feeling that the country is on the wrong track.
Groups most likely to share positive sentiments about the communist era included the over-60s, people on lower incomes, and those living in the countryside or small towns. The same groups expressed the greatest disillusionment with present-day Romania.
In total, over 48% of Romanians said they believed life was better under communism.
https://tvpworld.com/87994994/majority-of-romanians-nostalgic-for-communism-study-shows
CoMmUnISm BadDDDddd capitalist daddy said so!
My bad I should’ve known even mentioning communism would make you cum all over yourself
I even said It’s not bad but I think you came before getting to the last part
Not that communism is bad
Was not called a world war for nothing. There were tons of countries on the “Allies” side and tons on the “Axis” side. A simple search for WWII Allies member or WWII Axis members will show who fought on each side.
There are to many to list here. Britain, Soviet Union, USA, Canada and China to name a few for the allies.
Nazi Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Finland, Hungary for the Axis side.
Edit forgot Italy.
You forgot to include USSR on the Axis side too.
Consistently applying that logic would put nearly all the Allies on the Axis side
A non aggression pact is avoiding war, not joining a side, in the majority of cases.
Unless the pact includes defining who they can invade without stepping each other’s toes like the USSR and Germany.
Which countries did the other pacts agree on invading? None? Probably the reason you don’t hear about the other deals. They were obviously meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
Yes they were but switched later on. If people want more in depth they can have a gander. There is so much stuff in it all.
Don’t forget Italy.
Thanks, fixed.
World news is modded by zionists, or is this a different world news? Lemmy has like a lot with similar names. It’s a thing on here too, although less so. Especially on world news with zionists.
It’s the .ml one
They are aggressive in making sure their sheep do not get counter manipulated.
Lemmy.ml is a no go zone for those not drinking the eastern fascists wearing a communist mask kool-aid.
Was this ml? I was banned for saying NATO was a defensive alliance.
Yep. Seems to be a running theme over there.
thats because its not its an imperialist tool with nothing defensive about it, lib worlders man 😒
Exhibit A.
Points to guy that is completely correct “Haha, get a load of this guy!”
Exhibit B.
points at guy that is completely correct “Get a load of this guy!”
My time on Lemmy drastically improved when I blocked the “Tankie Triad”, which is Lemmygrad, Hexbear, and Lemmy(dot)ml. I also unsubscribed from anything .ml and manually searched for the next most-popular non-tankie community for that topic.
I don’t care if you have different beliefs than me, but tankies are unreasonable, trolling, and biased, in both content and moderation. They’re not around to discuss anything in good faith…
Yeah, those places should be covered by the FAQ or something.
A much better solution would be for every other instance to just defederate them.
gots to block those evil communists! can’t have anything not approved by the empire getting into my liberal echo chamber!! 🥀
Nah, communists are cool. Tankies can get fucked.
“Tankies” are the actual left liberal 🫠
No, tankies are idiots who think that a communist nation can do no wrong. Just like Ancaps think that capitalist nations can do no wrong.
“tankie” is a meaningless anticommie slur it has no real definition
What did daddy Hasan call your ilk? Woke 11 or something? Folks who can’t hang. Ones that progressives have to work around because you’re allergic to touching grass.
Da, Comrade.
Ya the guys in Lemmy.ml tend to be pretty weird like that. They aren’t a monolith but in general they tend to think that Russia, China, and North Korea have never done anything bad and that all the evil in the world comes from capitalism in europe and America and that the whole world will be fixed when The Revolution comes. It is all sort of like evangelical Christianity with the numbers filed off, the president of the United States is like an appointed satan (appointed, not elected, they don’t believe elections work/are real in the west) who rules over hell which is the west (sometimes stylized as “Amerikkka”, often accompanied by an American flag emoji with a fire emoji on top of it or a jpeg of a Chinese emperor shooting a fireball), Karl Marx is sort of like Jesus and mao, lenin, Stalin, etc. are the disciples, and The Revolution is the rapture. It is a pretty interesting belief system and I think the .ml guys all mean well, but they can be really difficult to talk to sometimes, as you’ve seen.
thats because its true, if you left your liberal echo chamber and read real news and read theory properly it would all make sense 😒
Real News? Can you provide an example?
This isn’t the first time that’s happened on Lemmy. What’s up with that?
It was lemmy.ml/worldnews…
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=24410054
If you go to settings you should be able to block an entire instance and then won’t see them on /all
There’s a couple instances that always moderate like that. But you’re better off just hanging out, finding out for yourself, and then blocking what you don’t agree with.
But there’s another that bans people for downvoting AI, but only for a few days so people come back to be trolled. And at least one that bans anyone who tries to take anything seriously.
Stop looking at Lemmy as a single thing, there are dozens of instances acting largely autonomously and if one fucks up, make sure you call out that one and not the entire fediverse.
If you go to settings you should be able to block an entire instance and then won’t see them on /all
Thanks
Stop looking at Lemmy as a single thing, there are dozens of instances acting largely autonomously and if one fucks up, make sure you call out that one and not the entire fediverse.
Fair enough. The way Lemmy works is kinda confusing.
You know how multiplayer games can have different servers with different rules and people? Same thing.
Just remember to block .ml and you should be fine! Not many others ban you for speaking.
Ah shit, I think I was the guy you responded too! Sorry about what happened. I upvoted your reply. You are right, the Soviets had a lot of help. I just meant they bore most of the brunt of the war in Europe and that I, as an 80s kid, was never taught this in history class.
No, it wasn’t you. These guys were calling me a Nazi for saying it was a group effort.
One was called EmmiLime and the other was Gary_Host_Laptop
Gary host is the hardcore tankie mod of .mls memes comm (and a few others iirc)
That explains a lot.
Lemmy was started by authoritarian communists (often called tankies) who got banned from Reddit, so they are generally more abundant here. They have their own alternate version of reality where the USSR was the most perfect society to ever exist and the west is the source of all evil in the world.
There are a few instances (aka servers) they tend to congregate on, but the main one is Lemmy.ml. It was the first server made so despite its extreme ideological slant, it still has a lot of subscribers. Just avoid any communities on Lemmy.ml and this shouldn’t happen anymore.
To elaborate, they are tankies who believe trans rights are western pink washing. And who larp as Haitian revolutionaries from their ergonomic computer chairs. And who literally do not post outside of their home instance because they can’t handle the internet without their “I win” ban button.
no such thing as authoritarian lib
Yeah, it’s really inconvenient for y’all when people have a word to accurately summarize the fatal flaw in your ideology isn’t it?
Some groups and servers have a very lose connection to reality. Get used to it.
This post is better suited for !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com.
Just so you know, that community (really instance) is so biased they literally won’t allow any criticism of your home instance…
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39126561?scrollToComments=true
If a place to highlight mod abuse only allows posts they agree with, it’s propaganda.
Like, of all the communities that bias would be a problem, a place to complain about moderation is probably where it’s the biggest problem.
That being said, there’s a fair chance you were already aware of that and have somehow rationalized it being ok
Personally feel that was pretty rational considering the sheer amount of transphobic vitriol those threads always drew. I was tired of seeing them every time I scrolled, and some of the alt spamming transphobia stuff was completely out of hand. If you read the thread you linked announcing it, they also only banned a very specific genre of YPTB thread related to Blahaj, and other posts about Blahaj are still allowed.
Note that this decision isn’t about ideological gatekeeping, its about reducing the workload for our own mods and admins in trying to moderate this community, and to avoid iterating over the same old topics again and again.
Blajah isn’t getting a “free pass” over YPTB posts - if you feel they are power tripping over other issues then feel free to make a post here. But if it’s a post questioning the validity of xenogenders or about Blajah bans for gatekeeping then that will no longer be allowed here.
Feel like you are representing this really unfairly.
Feel like you are representing this really unfairly.
If you look at the timestamps that’s an at least 2 year old post that recently seemed to get relaxed…
I’ve had both those instances blocked for at least two years, and was running off memory.
But I did take the time to search blajah just now, that mod post is the only post. It’s possible there’s some that just have a community name and are from that instance, but I doubt it.
I also just don’t really care that much about drama with two instances I’ve had blocked for years.
Both places are full of power tripping mods/admins, whem I run into those places, I block them and move on
Just so you know, that community (really instance) is so biased they literally won’t allow any criticism of your home instance…
So you led with a complete fabrication (2 years ago the admin of db0 is saying the ban should only cover that topic and that it should be temporary)
I also just don’t really care that much about drama with two instances I’ve had blocked for years.
Which is why you felt the need to comment and lie about them. Sure thing. Any other things you don’t care about you want to weigh in on unprompted?
Also I just looked and a post about 196 on Blahaj and transphobia is the 3rd post from the top excluding the pinned thread. 😂
I’m not sure why you’d think I’d have seen that when I just said it was blocked for years…
But I looked:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/76216189?scrollToComments=true
The blajah admin saw comments they didn’t like on a different instance, and instead of blocking the right person, blocked someone else…
I’m not sure why you’d support admins banning people for comments on completely different instances, but I honestly don’t give a fuck, am not gonna try to change your mind, and am never going to see any other comments you ever post.
They immediately reversed the ban and handled it graciously, but I pointed this out because your assertion was you can’t criticize Blahaj at all on that comm or that instance. Something that happened less than ten days ago, and where everyone walked away happy. Please by all means block me for pointing out the egg on your face
