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    Two that come to mind to me are Click and That’s my Boy. Both Adam Sandler movies of course. The first one is very queerphobic and sexist, and the second one is a story about pedophilia. Still surprised they managed to get Christopher Walken for Click tbh…

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    Having forgotten pretty much everything about Ace Ventura: Pet Detective I tried to watch it with my nephews and immediately had to turn it off lol

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    There is no competition: Idiocracy, because it isn’t funny anymore when you are in it yourself.

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        It’s a fair criticism but imo it’s not too hard to write off that bit of absurd narrated exposition at the beginning and instead think of it as being about anti-intellectualism and broken institutions, since the rest of the movie seems like more of a satire of those things, and the plot doesn’t really land on eugenics as a solution to its problems.

        Mike Judge made a statement about it in an interview:

        We live in polarized times, which means that for every ‘Idiocracy is a documentary!’ take that goes around, there’s also a critique that argues that Idiocracy is a celebration of eugenics. Have you thought about that interpretation of it?

        Well, yeah. I mean I’ve actually read that a couple of times. But to me, I thought the opening made it very clear that whatever side you take, nature and nurture are both covered in that. That guy is clearly not a good father. I mean, there’s a kid with a motorcycle in the front yard, and no one’s paying attention to this. He’s just irresponsibly knocking up different woman, and proud of it. It’s not like he’s a good, upstanding role model for the kid. So I think it’s pretty clear here that, whichever one it is, [nature or nurture], there’s some combination of both. I obviously don’t believe in eugenics. I think you could look at it both ways—you have this couple that’s trying to be so responsible that they end up never having kids. Then there’s another couple who just irresponsibly keeps having them and not raising them right. So, you know, if the other couple adopted the other kids. I’m sure they would probably be better off.

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        The thing is, the movie itself is fine. It is self contained satire that never tries to pass itself off as more than an absurd joke. It’s that everyone is citing it as prophetic or relevant that’s the issue. Ironically, the people that can only process real events through their favorite fiction aren’t nearly as smart as they think they are.

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    Everything Rob Schieder started in.

    None were very well liked even when they were fresh, but things like “Big Stan”, in which his pipsqueak convict character has to go on a karate-kid-style journey to learn martial arts from David Carrodine in order to fend off rapists before he heads off to prison is kind of a case study in a whole genre that could be called ‘damn, you really thought that was funny?’

    Norm MacDonald and some of the other SNL folks dabbled in some of the same jokes, but were much more talented, so some of this stuff feels a little forgivable. Schneider though… oof.

    Also: I haven’t seen it, but I’m going to guess that 2008’s “You Don’t Mess with the Zohan” – in which Adam Sandler stars as an Israeli Mossad super ninja who wants to be a stylist – probably didn’t age great.

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      he’s the one that hasn’t aged well. gone off the deep end, he has. antivax, transphobe, trumpette, pimps for moms for liberty… you name it. actually got pulled from the stage in Regina (ca) during an event two years ago, in the middle of his routine, due to piss-poor taste and ‘inappropriate’ (to say the least) content. src

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      None were very well liked even when they were fresh, but things like “Big Stan”, in which his pipsqueak convict character has to go on a karate-kid-style journey to learn martial arts from David Carrodine in order to fend off rapists before he heads off to prison is kind of a case study in a whole genre that could be called ‘damn, you really thought that was funny?’

      “Get Hard” does this as well. Showed it to my parents and they loved it, to be fair - The premise does disgust me though.

      From my perspective the wider American population has a problem with people acting like rape in prisons is

      1. Something bound to happen
      2. Something routine
      3. Part of the punishment and something criminals deserve
      4. Something to laugh about. When would it ever be okay to laugh about it?
      5. A racially asymmetrical situation, I.e they’re always like “a tough and violent black criminal with a large penis is going to rape you in prison and they will target you more if you’re white.” How is that okay? That’s like 20 racist fallacies right there in a short idea.

      This is pushed heavily by Hollywood and also by people across twitter, whether professional or rando accounts.

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    I nominate “Dude, Where’s My Car?”.

    I thought this was screamingly funny when it came out. It was the movie everyone quoted until “Napoleon Dynamite” came out. I tried rewatching it maybe a year or two ago and it’s aged like milk. Too much of the comedy relies on unhealthy stereotypes & tropes.

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      I got free-ticket coupons when the film melted in the middle of (an inconsequential scene in) Shaft. We chose to see Dude, Where’s My car?. I still want my money back.

      It’s got two very quotable bits, but the rest I didn’t like in the slightest. Both leads have done better work!

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      I think dude where’s my car is a positive movie making light of negative anti light tropes though.

      The movie is oft’ seen as a hidden metaphor for two male friends getting drunk and having a night of passion together. This is because it begins with them waking up with a hangover, on the sofa together, and a random naked man walks out of their closet in the background. Then walks back in when they bottle the question of “what did we do last night?” and refuse to revisit it.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k_VYCeYwyA

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      It’s purposefully stupid so the tropes don’t bother me, the reason it was funny at the time was because the tropes hadn’t been established as much. It’s like saying old art is boring cause everyone does that now not realizing it was the OG. I still liked it and we watched it for movie night once and my at the time 19 and 21 year old kids liked it, we all quote it now.

      ZULTAN!

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    Blazing Saddles? For the time,it was genius…is the blatant racism still funny… I would say yes because Mel brooks forces you to evaluate it and then laugh or don’t laugh.

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      The black sheriff isn’t the butt of the jokes, the dumb fuck racists are. However, there are some gay jokes toward the end, but they aren’t too mean.

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        One of the most legitimate uses of the n-word in media is to make racist idiots look even worse. And the people of the land scene is pure gold.

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    Norbit.

    I mean, it was questionable then too. But looking back on how Eddie Murphy decided to tank his career says a lot about how comedians of the time loved punching down.

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    Wish I could tell you off the top of my head, but if anyone is fond of badly aged comedy films (or just talking about them) there’s this great podcast/YT channel called This Aged Great focusing on 70s 80s & 90s films.

    Edit:

    • I think American Pie is a bit weird, not thwt funny given the subject matter, and contains really unpleasant elements
    • Some of the high school movies of early 2000s were leaning into the template set up by their famous 80s predecessors, but i think people understood that the 80s films were purposefully trope-y. Whereas for the 2000s movies, they were treating it with reverence and it was like an unpleasant commitment to keeping alive a situation which had only ever existed in the real of fiction
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    Idiocracy

    I thought it was silly because of how crazy far-fetched and unrealistic it was, since that stuff could never happen in real life. But now that kind of comedy has aged terribly and is no longer funny at all.

    /s :(

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      I’m actually going to say this nonsarcastically. In its defense most of the movie is still pretty funny, but the eugenicist intro is really bad. It would’ve been better if you’d chopped that off and said he’d just been isekai’d to a world of stupid people.

      Really though I’d say the part that’s aged worse is maybe not even the film itself but the way that people keep trying to compare it to the present day. Idiocracy is a world of well-meaning idiots who still have hearts of gold, and the day is saved when they step aside and let the smartest guy in the room figure things out. That is the exact opposite of the problem we’re facing today, where the villains at the top are very smart and very evil, smart enough to know how to use stupid people as puppets for their selfish aims. Idiocracy doesn’t even have any true villain in it.

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        I’ve seen many people mention how they feel Idiocracy has gone from a comedy to a documentary. I disagree. I believe it’s become a vision of a better future than the one we currently have ahead of us. I wish I was kidding.

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        The idiots weren’t well-meaning with hearts of gold. They enjoyed guys actually getting kicked in the balls, gladiator games, and extreme objectification of women.

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          Thanks, it’s like people didn’t actually watch this movie before parroting these opinions about it. “Camacho actually had good intentions”, except the part where he sent Not Sure to be executed at the end.

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    I haven’t thought of it in years but i suspect me myself and irene might have some questionable parts.

    I highly recommend the first few episodes of “dead like me” though. Perfectly captures the y2k/bondi blue imac g3 aesthetic.

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      I really want a sequel where the ex girlfriend is fresh out of prison. I don’t even care about the plot, I just need her to suffer

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          It’s a sex comedy about a guy trying to be sexually abstinent, and in the climax of the film he fails because a woman has explicitly non consentual sex with him, in a framing the film presents favorably.

          I haven’t seen it, btw. This is the description I’ve heard.

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              That’s because she wanted the cash of the pool. Remember? The colleagues were running a pool of which day he’d break and spank/wank/fuck. The ex- found the pool, placed a bet on night 39, where she raped him.

              The silver lining of the film is to make longer connections with women with sex less prominent, and it’ll be better.

              There is the culture of NoFap, which seems to become an identity after the film so…

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            I vaguely recall enough to confirm it. Yeah, that didn’t age well. “Men can’t be raped, bro”

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          Part of her probation is not being hit by a car, and she violates it twice.

          I have very strong feelings about her and her lack of comeuppance, and the many confused contemporaneous conversations I had about how fucked up her trespass was.

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      The one exception (it did age decently) is Austin Powers.

      They must have used the time machine to look forward and figure out what they could get away with and then danced as close to the line as possible.

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        The franchise could have an amazing modern day sequel if done properly.